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Re: Motion for a new POST NSF AUP

  • From: George Herbert
  • Date: Sun Oct 15 19:00:45 1995

[This message with my ISP-related hat off and my Usenet newsgroup
moderator hat on.]

John writes:
>  Despite postings to the contrary, this is an extremely difficult problem 
>  to solve in the absence of authentication.  While the current ad-hoc methods
>  of managing such bulk advertising are not perfect, they may be far better 
>  than the quick fixes being proposed.

Just as a warning, some of us on the recieving end of more than our fair
share of net abuse (the collected Usenet moderators) are starting to get
more than a little short fuzed about this.  There was a strong move last
week by numerous moderators to demand that spammers real name, address,
and phone number be released by ISPs following abuse events, presumably
to make the sort of ad hoc counterattack which seems to be the only
effective response today more effective.

I argued against it, for the obvious reasons for anyone who's an ISP
(customer confidentiality being a very touchy issue...), and the
moderators are back to simmering without a coherent policy.

That particular proposed solution aside, something is going to have
to be done about the problem.  Not so soon that we do the wrong thing,
but there has to be an industrywide public acknowledgement that certain
behaviours are abusive to the net as a whole and are not acceptable.

-george william herbert
gherbert@crl.com
moderator, sci.space.tech & sci.space.science