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Re: Best way to deal with bad advertisements?
> I don't quite remember how we went from black holes to peering policies, > but I certainly will put my two bits in ;0 Off topic is fun :) > MCI's policy seems very clear to myself. They require DS3 backbone, 3 > DS3 IXPs and 24X7 noc. If you meet the requirement, you sign a document > and then peering is initiated. Took a matter of 2-3 weeks for myself. Yes but... maybe you didn't see what I said. Why should *I* (my company) install a US wide national network, to no-ones advantage except the leased line company, when we have already made the *huge* effort of moving the data across the atlantic. All these 3IX at DS3 policies indicate to me is the bigoted, pro-US nature of the NSPs over there. How about paying there way, since more and more of the content and customers are outside the US and it is in the interests of the customers of the NSPs to have better connecivity to Europe/Asia/elsewhere. Now don't get me wrong, I do not believe that the folks on the ground are in anyway that unconcious of the outside of the US, but past history gives the executives of these NSPs (Sprint in particular) the attitude that "if they [non-US NSP/ISPs] have paid for the line themselves up 'til now, lets see what else we can screw out of them". > UUNet's policy is the one I have a problem with--there is no policy it > seems. UUNET went from peering with everyone, regionals, etc. when Andrew > Partan was there, to now not peering with anyone. They act interested, but > then will come back to you with a. Private Peerings via DS3s or b. No peering > because your network is not equivalent in size to the "multiple DS3s" they have > coming from each hub. I still have not seen any written policies from > UUNET. I have been informed that the new policy is being formulated and there may be something this year. All this means is that the big NSPs will get good connectivity to each other and the rest of the market will have good connectivity to each other and then the bleed over between the two "tiers". Market forces will eventually win, but how many customers of the "other tier" ISPs will be pissed off during this time ? regards, -- Peter Galbavy firstname.lastname@example.org @ Home phone://44/973/499465 in Wonderland http://www.wonderland.org/~peter/ snail://UK/NW1_6LE/London/21_Harewood_Avenue/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -