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Re: Lawsuit threat against RBL users
>Company S(pam) has a web site, hosted on the servers of >web-presence-provider Company P(rovider). Company S uses the services of >Company X to send out massive loads of SPAM, with referencing the web >site and even e-mail addresses hosted by Company H. Now, if I'm hearing >what's being said on this list correctly, Company H is being expected to >pull the website they host for Company S (or else be blackholed), _even >though no illegal or spam-generating activity is being generated on >their network_. >Am I understanding this correctly?!? I have never seen the RBL work this way. Don't you mean Company P is expected to pull the website, since they host the website, not H? >By this philosophy, it would seem that if I were to host the web pages >of a company which engaged in unwelcome telemarketing (which I >personally find much more offensive than SPAM, and which is no more or >less illegal in most states), I would be under an obligation to cease >providing service to that company! You can do whatever you want with your network. As can other networks. No obligation, really. However, you can't always control the results. >So, given the earlier threads about annoying UUNET marketing folks, >let's blackhole all mail that comes from UUNET. Oh, and also mail that >comes from anyone who peers with them. And of course any mail that has >to be transported over those evil people's networks.....wait a sec, >why's my inbox suddenly empty, where'd the internet go??? Recalling an American hamburger commercial some time back, "Where's the spam?" ;-) Did you read the thread about the NSI spam? Do you know how effective the RBL was against the mighty microsoft (tm)? >Maybe I'm misinterpeting the policies here, but I didn't hear anyone >disputing the actual complaints of this guy, which can only lead me to >believe that either A) This guy was actually treated unfairly, and has a >valid complaint, or B) Nobody cares enough to say "hey, wait a minute, >there's been a failure in communication, let's see if we can work this >out." Talk to the volunteers at the RBL, and read the web site regarding those questions. I'm confident that you will see both A and B will be answered to your satisfaction. It's actually quite difficult to get into the rbl, and quite easy to get out of.