Re: IPv6 allocatin (was Re: ARIN Policy on IP-based Web Hosting)

[Hank Nussbacher]

At 17:02 01/09/00 -0400, Deepak Jain wrote:

> > The Internet as we know it took 30 years to come to everybody, and it was
> > providing something that essentially wasn't provided before.
> >
> > Internet2 provides the same thing, only faster; so why do we believe it 
> will
> > replace the existing solution *EVER*, much less in a shorter time frame 
> than
> > 30 years?
> >
> > The Internet is going to be with us for a very long time.  Emphasis 
> should be
> > on fixing it, not replacing it.
>
> Is it just me or is the Internet2 not a very big deal? Its based on OC-48c
> and OC-192c technology as far as I know, so why would its adoption change
> _anything_ except the some switch or router gear that guarantees QoS?
>
> I admit my information may be woefully out of date; I saw an article in
> InternetWeek about transfering a file at 40Mbit/s. I wouldn't see the big
> deal at 400Mbit/s.
A link to review first:
http://www.internet2.edu/news/html/i2lsr.html

In any event, Internet-2 is *not* about having a bigger pipe (best left to 
James Cameron - if size really does matter) - it is about having a smarter 
pipe.

Smartness may manifest itself as:
- on paper: QoS end to end
  - in practice - the ability to view an MPEG-1 2Mb/sec video with no 
packet loss from 6000 miles away.  Try watching any of these at 2+Mb/sec:
http://media2.bmrc.berkeley.edu/demo/mpeg/
http://www.researchchannel.com/ondemand/duke/HalfTimePromo.html
http://www.researchchannel.com/ondemand/duke/Asx/ht_spot_m2_56m.asx
It doesn't matter how fat a pipe you have - it depends how loaded it may 
be.  Let me know how well you see it.  I see it is fine - each and every 
time - over a mere T3.
- on paper: going at 800Mb/sec end to end
  - in practice: how many TCP tuned systems do you know out there that can 
handle 800Mb/sec?   I'll make it easier - how many systems that can handle 
10Mb/sec TCP streams (sending) from coast to coast?  Try:
http://www.psc.edu/networking/perf_tune.html
  - in practice: ADSL users suddenly got huge performance boosts when they 
realized they needed to tune their Windows TCP stack.  I consider that a 
trickle down affect of I2 research, already.

-Hank


> Deepak Jain
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