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RE: Broken Internet?
> -----Original Message----- > From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of > Roeland Meyer > Sent: March 16, 2001 2:44 PM > To: 'Adam Rothschild' > Cc: email@example.com > Subject: RE: Broken Internet? > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:34:35AM -0800, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > But yeah, putting all your eggs in one basket could make for a nice > > single point of failure. Or calculated risk. Your call... > > That's my point, small shops don't have much choice. Typical Inet > start-ups > are cases where headcount is far less than server count. Granted, most of > the H/W is in a co-lo. Why do you think small shops (eg: us, but we are smaller than the average small shop) use colo? It strikes me as a lot cheaper to pay $500-1000/megabit/month to Exodus, AboveNet, Globix et al (my apologies to those from colo providers I didn't name, I know there are hundreds out there) rather than find a suitable facility, get a decent power setup, then you need to deal with ARIN, get yourself some transit providers, etc. Oh, and then you need some operational staff, too, to reboot your server if it dies, that type of thing. If all you're planning on doing is connecting your own rack or two's worth of servers, then you've just spent a lot more money building your own for little benefit. There's the time factor, too... Most colo providers will probably let you move in with all your hardware within a month, if not less. How long does it take to build a real data center? > <sigh> You guys just don't want to allow a small business to run their own > data center, do you? > Can't y'all understand that there are serious business reasons > for a company > to do so? All right, I'm curious here. What do you define as "data center"? If you mean the facilities with redundant connectivity, diesel generators, enough UPSes to power the biggest power hogging thing you can find for six hours, etc, I'd like you to tell me how a small business can afford that. If, like some people, you define "data center" as a small wiring closet hooked up by one T1 (or, in your case, DSL, and you're not the first I've encountered with a DSL-connected "data center") to some random provider, then I don't think anyone has a problem with you running your own "data center", although I think your semantics could be argued, and since this is NANOG, will be argued for about 100 posts minimum. Vivien -- Vivien M. firstname.lastname@example.org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/