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On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Jamie Bowden wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 up@3.am wrote: > > > > On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote: > > > > :Have you checked available rights of way lately? They haven't changed much > > > :for quite a while. Telecom has not really any ability to build dedicated > > > :bridges for telcom fibre. It uses existing facilities wherever possible. > > > :Following the paths of least cost/resistance, this pretty much determines > > > :that rivers and bridges become choke-points. The only real alternatives are > > > :microwave towers (a cost/benefit argument I won't touch, even with your > > > :ten-foot pole). > > > I would think that if fiber can be run across oceans without using tunnels > > or bridges, that it could be run across some rivers much the same way, no? > > Hey, genius, I got a question for you. How were planning to get to that > [river|stream|lake|etc]shore? The rights of way lead to existing bridges > and tunnels. Buying a contiguous right of way in America is exorbitantly > expensive, if it's even possible, which I highly doubt. If you're already > at a bridge, tunnel, whatever, (because hey, that's where the existing > right of way you're using takes you) why wouldn't you use it? I didn't think we were discussing right-of-way issues, so much as diverse redundancy issues at "choke points" (see above). If everybody's fiber goes through the same tunnel, and the tunnel has a bad fire, that can lead to nasty outages...wait, it just *did* that, didn't it (not that this situation was even a river, but I digress)? Anyway, it would seem that unless you bury it fairly deeply under the riverbed, it ain't such a great idea. There goes my Mensa application... > Your .sig lists you as CEO, yet you seem to lack the basic knowledge that > corporate officers are beholden to their shareholders, doing what's cheap > right now vs. what makes sense over time. The forces driving major > telcos are many, and long range planning at the expense of today's stock > price is not one of them. It also lists me as Janitor, are you going to now attack my dusting technique? I'll have you know that I can empty a trash can with the best of them! It might also clue you in as to how many "shareholders" I'm beholden to. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am =========================================================================
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