RE: Deaggregating for emergency purposes

[Daniel Senie]

At 02:50 PM 8/6/02, you wrote:

> Phil,
>         You would think, after hearing about 30 people with clue+++
> talk, you may realize that this is a patently *bad* thing and should not
> be done.
Actually, what the many people have said sounded a lot more like "it won't 
help very much."

>  If your route's are being hijacked you can generally solve your
> problems in 2-5 phone calls...That's all it's *ever* taken me.
> 1. Call their NOC.
typical response: you're not our customer, go away.

> 2. If not helpful call their upstream.
typical response: you're not our customer, go away.

> 3. Call a couple of Tier 1's who are transit for their upstream, and
> have them filter it.
response: who the hell are you?

Until you get back to the people you buy transit from, or peer with, and 
try to get them to take on your cause. When you can't get your own 
upstreams to understand what you're talking about, you post to NANOG, and 
the problem gets solved in short order.

This tends to be the sad reality.
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