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RE: Is there a technical solution to SPAM?

  • From: Bob German
  • Date: Tue Jul 29 09:46:57 2003


I disagree.  While you're right that it is a social problem, it is also
a technical problem in that those of us charged with protecting our
networks and equipment need to be able to discuss methods of engineering
our networks to counteract SPAM while the social, political and legal
issues are being played out in their arenas.

And I doubt that career spammers give a rat's ass about proper network
etiquette.  Education may help prevent newbies and brick-and-mortar
converts from becoming spammers, but it will take some combination of
legal and technical measures to deal with the career spammers.  Laws
alone won't work, because laws have loopholes.

Bob German

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Michael.Dillon@radianz.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:24 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Is there a technical solution to SPAM?



Anyone who believes that SPAM can be solved by technical means should
try 
googling one of the following:

sms spam
i-mode spam
IM spam

It should be clear that spam is really a social problem, not a technical

one and therefore the solutions will be found in the social, political
and 
legal spaces, not in network engineering. Some combination of education 
and training, new laws, arrests and public trials will be needed to get 
rid of it. 

I'm betting that we get the biggest bang for the buck out of education
and 
training. Part of it will come from teaching people network etiquette, 
part from teaching them that spam is not a way to make money, and part
of 
it from teaching website owners how to provide effective advertising so 
that website ads can dominate the cheap mass advertising space and 
displace the spammers.

In any case, I suggest that we should ban all future discussion of SPAM 
and spammers from this mailing list since it is not related to network 
engineering or operating an IP network. 

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Michael Dillon
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