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Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down
Jack Bates wrote:
It's useful to be careful in how we define collateral damage here. Collateral damage can include, for example, non-spam email coming from a spammer's site.Mark Segal wrote:
In this context, we're talking about _escalation_ of listings outside of the demonstrated spamming/abusive/insecure IPs.
monkey's had no collateral damage issues until PHL was released due to non-response from ISP's.
The PHL is the escalation.
openrbl.org does not host a blacklist and thus cannot have collateral damage.
SBL does escalation, but rarely. (WCG, Chinanet for example).
ORDB does not escalate. Has it been DDOS'd? Pointless, open relay blacklists are virtually useless these days.ordb is specialized and has had no collateral damage issues.
SPEWS escalates (obviously).
The DDOS's have been against SPEWS, SBL and Monkeys. Most of the other targets were re-publishers/distributors of SPEWS (ie: SORBS, Osirus, openrbl.org). Each of the three are _very_ public targets and generate lots of chatter/discussion on NANAE. Monkeys of course has RFG behind it and all that denotes.