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Re: Even you can be hacked
Ahhh, here is it... :) On Jun 10, 2004, at 10:07 PM, David Schwartz wrote:
On Jun 10, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Uh, no, I wrote this part. :)
While it may not be unreasonable, it is also not unreasonable for the ISP to *not* insure the customer against such risks.It all depends upon what the agreement between the customer and the ISPThe "victim" in the case Sean posted knew he had a worm, got some of his first bill forgiven, yet did nothing to correct it and acts surprised when the same thing happens the next month. YES, he is at fault. Anyone who thinks differently .. uh .. can I buy b/w from you? :) Oh, and since you feel responsible, I'm only going to pay for the amount of traffic I think I should have gotten on my web page, even if I get /.'ed or something. Does $25/Mbps sound good? I plan to use about 1 Mbps, but I will need an un-rate-limited GigE connection.
It all depends. :)
Also, you did not really address my question: Are you willing to sell me the service I asked for above?
Most of the people on this list see things from the ISP's perspective.Actually, I Am Not An Isp. (Yes, that is really what is stands for.) I do see things from a user perspective. And I still do not agree with you.
For instance, I do believe if someone comes by and plugs something into an outside socket on my house that I should pay the bill. The power was used, it cost something, and the power company sure as hell was not responsible. Of course, if I can find the culprit, I can force him to pay. But that does not mean the power company should eat the difference.
Take some responsibility. This whole thing reminds me of when we were kids and I loaned my middle brother my walkman. He left it on the floor where my baby brother was playing - who promptly smashed it with some random toy and destroyed it. My middle brother claimed it was not his fault, my baby brother did it. I was out a walkman (big bux in those days!), but I learned a valuable lesson: Never trust someone who is not willing to take responsibility.
Since you seem to disagree with me, care to put your money where your mouth is? Sell me a service where I only pay for what I expect. I'm happy to have you shut me off if you notice traffic out of profile, but don't expect me to pay more than what I think I should. Oh, and you should be prepared to turn the service back on when I "fix" the problem (even if it is just going to happen again, and again, and again, and again...).