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Re: Points on your Internet driver's license (was RE: Even you canbe
--On Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:17 PM -0500 Adi Linden <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Right... And if my ISP started sending me IPX or VINES, I would complain.That's like saying provide safe electricity. If someone has a toaster where the wire cracks and they electrocute themselves, or a hair dryer that isn't safe in the bathtub, do you complain that the electric company should provide safe electricity?The problem with all the comparisions is what you are comparing. Your utility has an obligation to provide safe electricity. If your holding your hair dryer while the utility company sends you 25,000 Volts instead of 120 Volts you should complain.
However, as long as what they are delivering is properly formed IP packets
with destination addresses within my address ranges, then I have no complaint.
They are delivering what I expect them to deliver.
So, we agree... As long as my ISP delivers IP, life is good. If they deliverHow is bandwidth any different?It is not any different.
IPX, I should complain.
Put down the crack pipe before someone gets hurt. Computers are devices thatThere is no "safe bandwidth". No matter how you look at it it's a two way communications and it's never going to be "safe" as far as the bandwidth goes, just like electricity is power and it's never going to be safe. It's the devices you plug in that need to be made safe.Computers are devices that are supposed to magically do anything. If I purchase a computer to browse the web and send email I should be able to obtain "safe bandwidth" that provides web access and email.
are tools, just like hammers, power drills, telephones, chain saws, and
weed whackers. If you want a computer that is safe to browse the web and
receive mail, you should buy a computer with an appropriate configuration
to support that. Expecting your ISP to change the internet to suit your
desires is like expecting the power company to provide you with 50 cycle
power because you happened to buy an electric drill that came from Europe
instead of one which was designed for the US electrical system. (US power
is 60 cycles, Europe is 50). If you use tools, you can get hurt if
you don't take appropriate safety precautions. You don't expect the hardware
store to make it impossible for you to hit your thumb with the hammer.
You don't expect the power company to make it impossible for you to drill
a hole in your foot with your electric drill. You don't expect the
phone company to make it impossible for you to make a crank call, and,
you don't expect the hardware store to make it impossible for you to
saw off your leg with the chain saw. Why do you expect your ISP to make
it impossible for your improper use of an incorrectly configured computer
to get hacked, misuesed, etc.?
Sorry... I don't agree. The average home with a 200A service is perfectlyTo compare this with the electricity company, the average home with a 200A service is equivalent to NATed and firewalled internet bandwidth. As your electricity demands grow (for whatever reason) the electricity company upgrades your service, to 3 phase, 600V, whatever. Same with internet bandwidth, get a public ip, get a static ip, get ports opened, run servers. Just as the upgraded electricity service requires more knowledge and equipment so does the upgraded internet bandwidth.
capable of using that electricity to power any electrical device they wish
up to that load. 200A service is equivalent to DSL, but, nothing in that
200A service prevents me from running a toaster, microwave, or refrigerator.
Noting in that 200A service limits me to a television and a clock-radio.
NATed Firewalled internet service would be equivalent to electrical service
that would only work with televisions and clock-radios, but, would disable
any attempt to run a microwave, refirgerator, toaster, or night-light.
I certainly don't want that from my electric company, and, I don't want
my internet screwed up that way either.
600A three phase is about bigger bandwidth, not different services. True,
there are devices that require three phase power, but, if they don't require
more power than is available in a 200A 220V services, guess what, they can
be run off of household service by using a transformer to convert the household
service to 3phase and handle the voltage conversion as well. A transformer
is a simple, and, generally inexpensive device which the user could even
make themselves if they so desired (although I don't recommend this).
To continue the analogy, 200A 220V household service is like DSL or Cable.
600A 208V three phase is like a T1. 2000A 7KV three phase is like a DS3.
To the best of my knowledge, all of these services can be made to work
with any electrical device that doesn't require more power (bandwidth)
than the service can deliver.
If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.