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RE: Unplugging spamming PCs
--On Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:08 PM -0700 Larry Pingree <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
No. As much as I hate spam... it's not on the top of the list of things toHi John, I'm not taking it to extremes. I'm talking about the middle of the road, and certainly spam is the on the top of the scales on everyone's statistics. I'm certainly not condoning or suggesting that the government control everything, and I'm not for absolutely no government involvement either. A balanced approach is most appropriate just as with anything.... there also can be regional registries similar to how ARIN is setup that allow inter-continental and inter-country registration. Unless someone can come up with a better idea, I see no other choice. FYI, we do already license IP's, through ARIN, APNIC, etc so that's already been done :)
If the ARIN, APNIC, RIPE, LANIC, etc registries are so upto date and accurate, why would you need to license anything at layer 4 or above? You've already got the contact details for people responsible for routing packets to those devices.
LP Best Regards, Larry Larry Pingree "Visionary people, are visionary, partly because of the great many things they never get to see." - Larry Pingree -----Original Message----- From: John Payne [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:40 AM To: Larry Pingree Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: RE: Unplugging spamming PCs --On Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:17 AM -0700 Larry Pingree <email@example.com> wrote:Hi Joe, If only those who are approved email senders are allowed to be accepted, this allows police, FBI, or DHS to go after only those whoareregistered and abusing it. It's for the same purpose that weadministercar registrations, so that at the end of the day, someone isresponsiblefor the car. In this case, someone can be responsible for the domainandmail server. In its current state, we are left way in the open. Idon'tdisagree that government control is un-desirable, but remember, atleastin my mind, even though it may be undesirable, it may be a necessary action. Anyone know why we have to get a drivers license? How about a passport? What about a SSN? All of these things are ways in which we can have accountability. Without accountability we will remain in anarchy. All that government does is bridge a gap when corporations, which only do things for profit, will not collaborate on anappropriatesolution to a problem, even though one exists.But why stop at email servers? spam is only one of the unsociable and illegal acts happening on the Internet. Why not license ownership of every IP capable device? That'll stop all forms of DoS (DDoS and otherwise too). Just to make sure, let's require that all vendors both inspect the license from their customers *and* notify the government on every purchase or upgrade. Hmm. Which government though? Better to be safe... you can't be sure which country the device is being installed in, or which country the packets flowing through the device will also visit. So let's require licenses from every country... and vendors to notify every government on every purchase or upgrade. Yep, that'll do the trick.