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Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
On 6-jul-2005, at 19:55, Edward Lewis wrote:
At 19:23 +0200 7/6/05, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
With the chicken little-ing again...
You are approaching the problem at the wrong end by asking "what's in it for
Pardon my skepticism, but I recall hearing about the coming of the world due to pollution in the 1970's and the end of the oil supply by the 1980's.That's nice, but maybe we should judge this issue own its own merits rather than adopt the position that since other people talking about other issues made mistakes in the past, surely there is a mistake this time too.
We know how many IPv4 addresses there are. We know how many are unusable (although this number isn't 100% fixed). We know how many were given out. We know how many are given out now each year. What kind of magic do you expect will make this problem that's coming go away?
And that's discounting that we already have a problem NOW. People are already moderating their requests because they know they can't get what they really want.
The point isn't whether IPv6 is good or not - it's that long-range predictions are often wrong.It's very simple. IPv4 addresses will become scarce and expensive, unless either this internet fad blows over or a new technology replaces IPv4. Tell me how this "prediction" can be wrong. Are there hidden pockets of yet undiscovered address space? Is some government agency working on secret technology that lets you communicate over the net without the need for addresses?
My experiences were that IPv6 was painful - I ran into a lot of application bugs, OS's didn't deal with it well, and the ISP's were tough to deal with - as in, not many suppliers, not enough expertise to deliver on promises.
Maybe things are better now (note the use of past tense in the previous paragraph), I don't deal with IPv6 at this time.It's getting better all the time, but there are still strange bugs in the applications, OSes and even the standards. IPv6 works very well for many things but not so well for others. Fortunately, there is still plenty of time to work out all the kinks before we need IPv6 to step up to the plate. In the mean time, we need SOME IPv6 so that the early adopters can find those kinks, and that part is right on track.
We who are running IPv6 salute you.