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Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?
> seems to me that certified validation of prefix ownership and as > path are the only real way out of these problems that does not > teach us the 42 reasons we use a *dynamic* protocol. Wouldn't a well-operated network of IRRs used by 95% of network operators be able to meet all three of your requirements? -certified prefix ownership -certified AS path ownership -dynamic changes to the above two items It seems to me that most of the pieces needed to do this already exist. RPSL, IRR softwares, regional addressing authorities (RIRs). If there are to be certified AS paths in a central database this also opens the door to special arrangements for AS path routing that go beyond peering, i.e. agreements with the peers of your peers. Seems to me that operational problem solving works better when the problem is not thrown into the laps of the protocol designers. --Michael Dillon