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Re: shim6 rides again (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...)
PH> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:14:03 +0100 PH> From: Per Heldal PH> ...quite the opposite of what I ment to say. Most nanog'ers work in PH> engineering. The problem is a lack of ops-people turning these PH> xOG-groups ito xEG-groups instead. Ah. That makes much more sense. :-) PH> PS! I prefer tight integration of operations and engineering. I'd say PH> it's good for engineering-staff to do ops-work from time to time (eat PH> their own dog food;). Organisations that practise job-rotation generally PH> have the better solutions. Indeed, or at least so I like to think. Tight integration means fewer kludges that simply translate to more work for someone else. e.g., I'm currently working on a project that requires a new protocol. I'm also the one who must write the code, test, and [initially] keep it up and running once complete. No shifting the burden "10% easier here, 30% tougher there" going on around here. ;-) Perhaps what more organizations need is management who can properly bridge the different camps. Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: firstname.lastname@example.org -*- email@example.com -*- firstname.lastname@example.org Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.