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Re: How should ISPs notify customers about Bots (Was Re: DNS Hijacking
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 02:48:05PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > On 7/23/07, Joe Greco <jgreco@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > All right, here we go. Please explain the nature of the bot on my freshly > > > > installed (last night) FreeBSD 6.2R box. > > > > > > %age of freshly installed freebsd 6.2R boxes v/s random windows boxes > > > on cox cable? > > > > That's fairly irrelevant. The fact is that this isn't targetting infected > > boxes, it's targetting everyone. > > its relevant because you specified freebsd and hence it becomes necessary to consider what % of users have freebsd boxes and how many of those are infected No, it's not necessary to consider what % of users have FreeBSD boxes. I simply used that to indicate that the box in question /is/ /not/ /infected/, and yet I'm being redirected. The point here is that it is inappropriate to break legitimate services in the pursuit of the "greater good". > > > Like anything else, its a numbers game. > > > > All of computing is a numbers game. That doesn't make it right to go around > > breaking random services just because it might fix some random problem. > > "right" .. whats that then? you're buying a product, you have T&Cs, > you are protected by consumer law.. what moral of society is being > breached for it not to be "right"? If I'm buying Internet access, and I ask for irc.vel.net, I expect to be connected to that site. > and neither the services are random or the problem. they are quite > specific and the solution has been calculated to be the path of least > resistance for the whole. > > > you sound a lot like a consumer more than a network operator.. Every network operator is a consumer and a provider. > i'm not > saying i would like what cox do if i were a consumer of theirs but > they are dealing with an issue on their subscription service and > they dont seem to be doing anything particularly radical This isn't radical? > do you have a better suggestion for them? Sure. Posted already. If they need some professional advice, there's a ton of people who could provide highly effective solutions. > incidentally, if you are a consumer and a tech-savvy one, why dont > you just circumvent the restriction? For the same reason I don't support having multiple incoherent DNS roots. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.