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Re: was bogon filters, now "Brief Segue on 1918"
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 03:55:13PM -0400, Patrick Darden wrote: > Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > >You really think Michael is malicious in his intent? > >You've spent a whole lot of time paying now attention around here, > >haven't you? > > I think Michael tends to get confrontational. As, apparently, do you. Sure. And he's not always right either; none of us are. But he gave cogent arguments to support his point, and you gave us coke machines -- worse, *accused him*, backhandedly, of leaving space for coke machines. See below. > I'm on a lot of the same lists Michael is on. Have been since 1997. I > have a lot of respect for him, with reservations gathered from > experience. He is sharp, and he has a sharp tongue. None of which amounts to "wants to hurt people", which is what you accused him of. > >No, cute soundbites don't make you an expert. > > > >But in this case, Dillon's right, and you're wrong: your attempt to > >trivialize the specific issue on point (allocation within the 1918 > >space internal to a company network) by implying that the only reasons > >to do it the way he suggests amount to "leaving space for soda > >machines" only proves in public that you don't know what you're talking > >about. > > No, you are wrong. Your attempt to trivialize what I have to say by > calling it cute only proves that you don't know what you are talking > about. Bad logic, isn't it? Statement that you are wrong, then > "proving it" with nonsense addressing someone's character without > addressing the point.... And yet I see tha tyou don't yourself bother to try to prove your argument; you merely continue to go after Michael and I on peripheral points. No pun intended. > Your mislabelling my tongue-in-cheek ongoing obsession with soda > machines as Trivializing only proves you have no sense of humor. I > remember when some kids at MIT first put their dorm's soda machine on > the internet. Man that was cool. You could ping it and find out how > many cokes were left, and their temperature.... Sure. Online coke machines are just about as cool as coffee-pot webcams. But they're orthogonal to the discussion that was at hand, and your returning to that well in the middle of a serious discussion suggests that you, yourself, are not all that serious. Once is tongue in cheek. Twice or three times is dilettante. > >As randy would put it, I encourage my competitors to hire you to > >architect their WANs. > > Thank you. Your bile does you credit. I don't know, Patrick; you seem to be the one emotionalizing the argument. I'm out of this one though; we are certainly out of AUP. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@xxxxxxxxxxx Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin)