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NANOG38 Survey Results

NANOG38 Survey

 

 

How did you attend NANOG?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

in person in St. Louis

98.5%

66

 

 

via Web - Real Media

0%

0

 

 

via Web - MPEG2 Multicast

0%

0

 

 

via Web - DVTS Multicast

0%

0

 

 

via Web - Windows Media

1.5%

1

 

 

via Web - VIC/RAT Multicast

0%

0

Total Respondents  

67

(skipped this question)  

0

 

Overall, was this NANOG useful to you?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

Very Useful

28.4%

19

 

 

Useful

62.7%

42

 

 

No Opinion

4.5%

3

 

 

Not Very Useful

4.5%

3

 

 

Useless

0%

0

Total Respondents  

67

(skipped this question)  

0

 

Is this your first time attending NANOG?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

Yes

25.8%

17

 

 

No

74.2%

49

Total Respondents  

66

(skipped this question)  

1

 

If you have attened a previous NANOG, how does this NANOG compare?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

Better

27.7%

18

 

 

About the Same

44.6%

29

 

 

Worse

4.6%

3

 

 

N/A

23.1%

15

Total Respondents  

65

(skipped this question)  

2

 

Did you find the General Session and Tutorial/BoF schedule acceptable?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

Very Useful

25.4%

17

 

 

Useful

62.7%

42

 

 

No Opinion

11.9%

8

Total Respondents  

67

(skipped this question)  

0

 

Did you find the public laptops near the General Session room satisfactory?

 

 

Response Percent

Response Total

 

 

Worked fine

25.8%

17

 

 

Did not use

72.7%

48

 

 

Bring back the Terminal Room!

1.5%

1

Total Respondents  

66

(skipped this question)  

1

 

Comments on the General Session:

 

 

Excellent

 

I found the Pragmatism vt an ill-aimed panel, waste of time. The fundamental problem is global routing . independent from v4 or vt

 

I would like to see more technical talks. Tuesday, this conference, was better than monday

 

General Session was INteresting but not exciting

 

The first day was a bit sparse -- Tuesday was much better.

 

I prefer the 3-day general session format, but this meeting seemed less hectic than previous 2-day general session meetings. Content overall was good. While it is appreciated that we keep within time limits, each talk should be allowed at least some minutes of follow-up from the audience. I think it might be a disservice to limit the comments if good mic follow-up is still flowing. Although there wasn't any particular problem, I'd prefer to go over a little rather than cut discussion short.

 

Much better topics, format seems to be working well. Stll having issues with first up after breaks and lunch

 

The room had a terrible echo Very offputting seeing a person on stage reading email cut off the wireless during talks make the room smaller on tuesday cause we lose so many people some talks were really hard to understand, especially after a night of partying, because they were so pressed for time. And maybe because of the partying.

 

Too many research/theory presentations... I hope we can have more practical case study next time...

 

general session was good

 

V6 panel session was less than useful, more a rant by people who need to be slightly better informed about what is happening outside their own little worlds. Panels need to be balanced, and this one was not. First sessions on Monday needed to be highlights for NANOG - unfortunately they were the low points.

 

program a bit weaker this time

 

Good times!

 

I think they were fine generally

 

Good lightning talks again. There were some issues with the sound, I think - such as quite bad echoing in the room.

 

There were more presenations than usual that actually interested me.

 

Bit short on topics this time.

 

 

Comments on the Tutorials:

 

 

WAY to much politics. It really sounds like the same individuals who fight the mail list just bring it to the conference and argue in person. Stop the anti-sisco rederigue or judging vs crsco SBGP vs BGP, ect. How about something useful like solving problems common to all networks regardless of platform. the arrogance and smugness of some networks and its people is incredible

 

tutorials were fine. good real-world applications

 

Learned a lot - worth price admission

 

All very great thanks

 

did not attend

 

Philip Smith is great! Bring him Back!

 

More More please! Maybe extend the conference by 1 day; 2 days tutorial and 2 days general

 

N/A

 

did not attend

 

The disaster recovery talk by Howard was interesting mainly for his relaying his extensive experience. It was somewhat a mish-mash of topics and not quite what I expected, but still worthwhile. He mentioned some URLs that weren't in his slides. He spent some time describing these resources so they would have been useful to include.

 

didn't attend tutorials

 

I hope the tutorials are not just for routine sessions. I would like to have "beginners", "experienced" type of info for each tutorials, so people can select tutorials for their needs.

 

could use some better topic tutorials.

 

did not attend

 

Did not attend

 

Didn't attend them.

 

Did not attend

 

Phillip Smith is great! Bring him back!

 

 

Comments on the BoF's:

 

 

gets a little political rather then useful

 

Great debate

 

peering BOf's interesting NSP - SEC Could have been better prepared

 

Liked debate format

 

Need More

 

Security BOf not as useful as i expected

 

Needed more space in the pering BOF

 

Peering BOF is great

 

peering BOF was great

 

Peering BOF as usual was good, didn't go to Security BOF

 

Peering BoF is always good. The ISP Security BoF is becoming less useful. Roland's info was interesting, but somewhat inappropriate in scope for a BoF. There was a lack of content. There is lots to talk about in that BoF, but I think it needs to be organized by some new blood (like a Bill Norton equivalent) to bring some new ideas on how to run it.

 

Peering BoF was useful and fun, seems like a good prereq for the GPF1.5, did not attend sec bof

 

Peering BOF rocked! Give the Peering bof more time Very interactive - like the more microphones at the peering bof and the seating arrangements

 

N/A

 

peering bof was good with some lively debate

 

With only two sequential BoFs on Monday afternoon, why were they crammed into the two side rooms, rather than using the general session room?

 

same old same old

 

Handy.

 

peering bof was good. did not attend informal bofs

 

Always like the peering BoF

 

Too cramped

 

like the dabate format

 

 

Schedule comments:

 

 

schedule of events was good and well prepared

 

no comment

 

I prefer 2 day program over 3 day . 2.5?

 

sparing well

 

Extend by 1 day

 

Have prefernce for evening BOf's and earlier finish time for conference

 

Prefer the new format so keep with it

 

again, Monday was bit light --

 

liked the scheduled.

 

The Lightning Talks should be last on the schedule, at least before the closing remarks.

 

This is imho the best it has ever been. I like the tutorials to all be on Sunday, the BoFs during the day much better!

 

let us know when the agenda ends well in advance so I can book my flights right Want a rough draft agenda 2 months in advance

 

do not like the sunday meeting schedule although I understand why it happened this time.

 

whatever

 

No comments.

 

very busy - the back-to-back with arin feels better when we split friday.

 

Late Tuesday end makes flights hard

 

spacing well

 

 

 

Did you find the public BoF room of value?

 

 

yes Best

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

yes

 

Yes

 

did not use, but think it is a good idea.

 

Did not use

 

Yes

 

what the heck is a public bof room?

 

did not use it

 

did not use

 

Yes.

 

Did not use

 

I didn't use it, I'm afraid.

 

NA

 

 

 

What did you like/not like about the meeting venue?

 

 

Hotel lobby was nice - rest of it not worth it

 

St.Louis hotel - but cheap

 

Great location

 

Wonderful Venue

 

Venue was fine

 

A better location (more restaurants and amentities close by) would have been better. St Louis itself was OK.

 

liked many places to have small meetings, sitting areas, big round tables, plenty of space and spaces to have little meetings. These "little meetings" are a critical element of Nanog.

 

Venue is one of the better ones in the recent history. Let's keep conference in decent hotels.

 

liked many places to have small meeting sitting areas, big round tables, plenty of space and space to have little meetings. these "little meetings" are a critical element of NANOG

 

Like free access in rooms.

 

OK. St. Louis is a good location. I know NANOG cannot do anything about this, but what's up with the water pressure in this hotel? I could have gotten a more invigorating shower with a water pistol.

 

Don't make us walk back to registration to get the agenda - we look at this all the time! Put the agenda pages on every desktop along with the survey forms.

 

Remembering NANOG in past, it seems that not much of info is focused on actual operational view for network engineers.

 

Meeting venue was satisfactory. No complaints.

 

Fine venue, position in St Louis is fine. But why St Louis?

 

hi carb snacks

 

No comments

 

I would say the time was not idea for Canadian attendees as it occured during a holiday.

 

Beer & Gear is excellent!

 

The hotel seemed a bit old-fashioned and stuck in a timewarp from the 1980s - but the staff seemed to be generally helpful, and decent ballrooms. St Louis seemed okay as a location, certainly wasn't as much of a "wasteland" of Dallas's downtown area, though a wider choice of eateries and other things were some trek away (e.g. Delmar in the Loop, Central West End, etc).

 

The Beer and Gear needs to be overly air conditioned, because everytime I go to beer and gear the room is hot because of all the people in it. I also love that Tony made the wireless work in a great fashion! THANK YOU TONY!!!!

 

The hotel really sucked. No really, it was terrible. I dont think I've ever seen so much brown in my life. The place needs to be closed, renovated and cleaned. St Louis is an "interesting" place to hold NANOG. Perhaps once is enough though :)

 

great location

 

 

 

What worked well and what should be improved for the next NANOG?

 

 

wireless conecting was great

 

All worked well

 

Make more break out BOf during the day

 

Lightning talks good

 

Wireless worked well

 

More lightning talks. More emphasis on things that have practical value to network operators (like, tscholl's talk) Make 2 hours of lightning talks per conference, and allow lightning talk speakers to take up to 15 or 20 minutes if they so request. It seems that lightning talks are more useful and interesting than most of the full-size talks. (I'm biased, I was a lightning talk speaker).

 

The Ipv6 talks/debates were excellent.

 

NANOG needs better printers for the little "cafes" than the dot matrix ones. By the time Monday came around the print outs were barely readable. A simple laserjet would be 300% better.

 

more healthy food (whole grained stuff, apples, granola bars, ) and maybe an espresso stand instead of bad coffee at breaks please I want more microphone time facilitate the interaction during and after the presentations get more vendors to send more boxes of shirts and other giveawsys.

 

two marketing presos, arbor and microsoft, were embarrassing more hard core presos and better speaking abilities

 

Not sure...sorry for crummy feedback :)

 

Some very nice talks - TL1 talk was very specific and useful.

 

Schedule seemed to work well.

 

Someone commented me that they wish there was somewhere to sit, or some small tables (high, bar-style) to put your drinks/plates on, as otherwise you're juggling nibbles, drinks, and swag from the b&g vendors, while trying to have a conversation with someone and give them a business card. At some point, we'll evolve two extra pairs of hands and though we'll look like Shiva, things like beer & gear, and getting through airport security will be easier. But for now, some tables to put your stuff on would be nice :). Connectivity seemed to be very good from the hotel, no major problems at all.

 

Informal BoF's didn't work - nobody signed up and nobody came.

 

Wireless connectivity was very good. Meeting room quite cramped.

 

make be more break out BOF during the day

 

 

Do you have suggestions for future NANOG presentations? (Topics and/or speakers)

 

 

Some more presentations on Intro - domain routing and IGp and these monitoring. Some presentations on MPLS/LDP and BGP2541 VPN's

 

More IPv6 deployment from tier 1 operater

 

More protocol level and some hardware level presentations

 

"Birth and Evolution of the Internet" Dr. Mathew P. Dovens mathew.dovens@savvis.net

 

"Birth and Evolution of the internet" Dr.Mathew P Dovens Mathew.dovens@savvis.net

 

Like to hear what other Network Operator Groups are doing on issues -- there was some talk about this, but it might be nice to have some updates from other regions. Also like an update from IETF/IESG on items of interest to NANOG community or where those groups need NANOG input.

 

Geoff Huston gives good talks Make the peering and security bof the main session - I don't like to be talked to.

 

overview of current IETF/RFC standards in pending? Having vote for popular tools for network engineers as new event?

 

would like to hear some presentations on optical networking such as research going on with I2 newnet, NLR, and Hopi projects. keep it up with the v6 topics

 

No suggestions.

 

Would like to see more infomration on what people are doing or worried about in the security area.

 

Developments in p2p

 

 

 

Suggestions/volunteers for future NANOG Hosts:

 

 

Carribean? You really should have a joint meeting with Internet2 or at least back to back meetings in the same venue (and tell each others communities about it). I suspect not many NANOG folks knew about the Quilt workshops held after NANOG (although that's possibly not NANOG's fault).

 

Bahamas or someplace other than Canada and US that is still "North American". Since the ARIN region covers services to some of the islands etc it might be nice to make it easier for some of these techs to attend. Many are on restricted budgets and I am all for moving NANOG around to allow some who have only been able to attend remotely to attend in person. We might also be able to draw some participation from Latin American region.

 

Google?!?! You've got over a billion US dollars to spend on YouTube and you can't even host a NANOG?!?! We should all de-peer you for a few days.

 

better giveaways

 

host did good...Thanks!

 

No suggestions

 

Not a host suggestion, but I wonder if having at least one "regular" location each year would make meeting logistics simpler? I know this works pretty well for the RIPE meetings in Amsterdam. I don't know much about negotiating with hotels in the US, but would a multi-year agreement with a hotel give better negotiating power to Merit/NANOG?

 

Someone go poke Level3 to do something in Denver.

 

 

 

Suggestions/volunteers for future NANOG Sponsors:

 

 

Amazon.com

 

How about getting Microsoft and University of Washington to sponsor in Seattle one of these days?

 

better giveawsys

 

No suggestions

 

If we're short of sponsors, like we didn't have break sponsors this time, how about putting out an appeal for sponsors to come forward? Maybe it's possible to get sponsors, if we communicate better with them. For example when we were short of sponsors for the evening beers at RIPE meetings, a handful of the "usual suspects" (i.e. small/sole-trader type companies) were usually happy to stick some money in the pot so we could have a couple of beers at the end of the day.

 

 




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