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NANOG49 Survey Results for Monday & Early Tuesday

  NANOG49 Monday & Early Tuesday Survey Results San Francisco, CA (June 13-16, 2010)  
B1. How did you attend NANOG? Response Percent (Response Total)
In person in San Francisco 97.8% (179)
Via webcast 2.2% (4)
(answered question) 183
(skipped this question) 0


B2. How many NANOG meetings have you attended?
This is my first meeting 31.1% (57)
Less than 5 35.0% (64)
More than 5 10.4% (19)
More than 10 9.8% (18)
More than 15 4.9% (9)
More than 20 8.7% (16)

(answered question) 183
(skipped this question) 0


B3. Overall, has this NANOG meeting been useful to you up to this point?
Very Useful 36.6% (67)
Useful 58.5% (107)
No Opinion 2.7% (5)
Not Very Useful 1.6% (3)
Useless 0.5% (1)
(answered question) 183
(skipped this question) 0


  QUESTIONS ABOUT MONDAY AND EARLY TUESDAY EVENTS
M1. The Sunday evening Community Meeting
1. No opinion, but would have been nice to have all of the presentation materials on line prior to it starting.
2. great, it's getting so crowded though
3. More time needed
4. NA
5. Not as painful as I had feared.
6. Did not attend
7. It was a good introduction to what NANOG was all about.
8. Did not attend
9. didn't go
10. Productive
11. Good. I guess you should come-up with all numbers clearly with valid reasons behind it.
12. didn't go
13. n/a
14. Very interesting in light of current events.
15. Unfortunately, without the underlying background behind the interactions between Merit and Nanog, this sounded like the politics you'd see at a SciFi Con. Once I got the skinny from asking many many people it made more sense....but it paints the Nanog SC in a rather bad and amateur light from the surface data they were willing to give out.
16. it was a great
17. previously answered
18. What a bore....the entire time was spent on discussing/debating the new NANOG structure.
19. Travel day from East Coast - consider travel logistics on meeting dates when the meeting is not in the middle of the country.
20. Great!
21. Interesting news regarding nanog transition.
22. NA
23. Not sure what all the fuss is about related to "newnog", though I admit I'm not sure the SC has really considered how much work it will take to pull off these shows.
24. Oigh! Please stop technical people talking about "business", it's as painful as your boss trying to talk to a customer about how BGP works.
25. N/A
26. Quite nice.
27. Excelent meeting
28. Very usefuel
29. Good and informative and kept people aware of whats going on.
30. commented
31. Not as contentious as I was expecting -- good.
32. A good one, discussing the split was just what we needed.
33. good and informative
34. Had a lot of Fun, Glad I got to come here. Hope to be here next year
35. Good atmosphere to meet and great.
36. Glad the SC tried to include the community in the transition. Sorry so many people took it the wrong way, but financials are important to see.
37. Great
38. The community meetings need to be scheduled with more time and either on Monday or Tuesday evening.
39. Well presented (see previous survey.)
40. N/A
41. n/a
42. sorry, missed it
43. I did not take yesterday's survey.
44. relevant in community meeting, not sure resources should be spent on meeting space for bof - unless that space is already needed for something else
(answered question) 44
(skipped this question) 139


M2. The Monday morning Newcomers' Breakfast
1. Great info on the user's group and the role of Merit.
2. Its a good thing, but i would sugest to change the way its being done by changing the way the seating is being choose. the card systeme doesnt work very well .
3. Nice
4. This was effective. Quiet, good food, good conversations.
5. Very good. met some good contacts
6. Great time. I met several newcomers there and had folks come up in the day since knowing I could help them find things or people.
7. Did not attend
8. Very good and well run
9. I enjoyed meeting new people, and learning about other NANOG attendees
10. Did not attend
11. didn't go
12. didn't attend
13. Was missing the hot veggie stuff
14. didn't go
15. This was a great event for networking and the introduction to NANOG and the verbally presented opportunities for involvement were helpful
16. Maybe more information (could be in paper/poster form) about organizational structure, functionality or goals of nanog.
17. n/a
18. didn't attend
19. Good one Nice break fast .
20. n/a
21. Was nicely organized.
22. Excellent idea - got there a few minutes late and didn't hear the speaker. Was there one? It would be a good time to discuss the event, discuss highlights, do some interactive (ice breaker) like facilitation?
23. Didn't partake
24. N/A
25. Enjoyed the breakfast. Even though this was my second Nanog I attended.
26. NA
27. excellent
28. n/a
29. Liked it a lot :)
30. Very Good
31. Excellent mixer and organized. Thank you to the hosts.
32. Didn't go
33. commented
34. -
35. did not attend
36. Had a lot of Fun, Glad I got to come here. Hope to be here next year
37. Lots of food.
38. Excellent job, great way to mix people.
39. Good event to get to know about nanog especially for the newcomer
40. great food; good opportunity to meet people
41. N/A
42. Great!
43. Good format.
44. Nice quiet time to meet and talk to other people
45. tasty, and allowed faces to names
46. N/A
47. n/a
48. sorry, missed it
49. n/a
(answered question) 49
(skipped this question) 134


M3. Monday's General Session presentations
1. enjoyable
2. IPv6 presos were what I came for. Glad to hear core providers are moving along in deploying v6. The 1/8 study was fascinating stuff; we knew that space was polluted but not how polluted.
3. was good
4. Good
5. Good
6. Very informative.
7. Good
8. All very informative and useful.
9. Excellent material, although a bit heavy of IPv6 for my tastes.
10. Good variety of talks.
11. useful, variously entertaining (vijay), educative (lorenzo), interesting (the 1/8 preso)...
12. Good
13. There were good..nicely ipv6 focussed
14. Mostly good
15. Appreciated the ipv6 talks.
16. Good
17. IPv6 focus was nice covering all aspects including home user/consumer hardware and roll out.
18. Keynote was great, as was the 1/8 and IPv6 presos. It's unfortunate that Apple doesn't actually let people talk about anything, and the Netgear preso was essentially content free.
19. Excellent & informative
20. Very good. The google presentations were both excellent.
21. didn't go
22. Excellent
23. Good
24. Good line up!
25. Already commented on the high quality presentation from Vijay Gill about Worse is Better. Thought provoking and entertaining. What happened to the other advertised presenters about 1/8? Manish did a very good job with his analysis and his presentation. Did the others decide they had nothing to add? IPv6 at home panel was very interesting. Liked the presentation of network design alternatives w and w/o IPv6. IPv6 at Google: another interesting topic and well presented. IPv6 Routing Table: was interested to see that the AS relationships are different in v6.
26. enjoyed it. got something out of the ipv6 talks, and the barriers to adoption. the netgear salesguy (salah) seemed out of place tho -- he could've presented his relavency better, IMO. jokes about "i need a cisco certification to understand what was just presented" were out of place. someone please encourage Allen Huotari to slow down and enunciate -- i was bummed i couldn't hear much of what he said, tho i wanted to.
27. In general the sessions where informative and interactive.
28. Interesting presentation of google
29. Thoroughly enjoyed Vijay Gills presentation on simplification of infrastructure and the update of IPv6 on the global net.
30. Great selection, nice talks about v6
31. Looking for more tech data
32. very good. the google presentation was informative
33. The Monday presentations were good, with the exception of the first IPv6 talk with the vendors.
34. Were ok.
35. mostly great. netgear was a little out of place, but nice to see them participating
36. My only comment is the v6 panel was a bit heavy on the vendor side, particularly with the gentleman from NetGear.
37. Concur with tweet on posting slides for download just in time for brief. Great informatrion, nice to be able to go back in the deck if the speaker is speeding through the ppt. Google keynote was exceptional. All morning briefs were excellent. Home networking update was interesting and prescient. Traffic matrices brief was too late in the day - tutorial-style briefs should be in the AM, and /or brown bag lunch session.
38. like
39. Very informative
40. I had spotty coverage as I was running back and forth... Of the ones I saw: * Vijay's keynote was a good insight into Google's deployments. * John's review of ARIN was a great way to get up to speed. Learned alot with Renesys' great review of the problems with v6 prefixes. Over all, great info
41. some very very good talks - the keynote was fantastic
42. The keynote given by Vijay was great.
43. very helpful. Would be useful if slides were posted.
44. Great presentations
45. Good info
46. excellent
47. Loved Vijay's keynote. Was a great start to a solid presentation line up for the day.
48. Overall very good.
49. IPv6 presentations overall very useful, but would have rather seen more discussion from Comcast and less from the others on the panel.
50. Seems to be a lot of vendor pitches, especially during the IPv6-in-the-home presentation. I don't come here to buy products, I come here to learn what others are doing and how they're doing it.
51. the content was good. lots of presentations from google.
52. Pretty good stuff.
53. Overall pretty good. Enjoyed the keynote.
54. All excellent. We need less on V6 though I think and more on other emerging technologies. It seems V6 has been beaten to death over the last few NANOG meetings.
55. One of the stronger morning presentation blocks.
56. I felt they were all rather good.
57. ipv6 sessions were good. Too much data and covered in too much hurry. I would have like to have little less data but cover it properly.
58. Valuable
59. Very useful
60. Mostly good :)
61. Excelent
62. Key Note was very good!
63. Keynote good, v6 enablement panel a disappointment, too much marketing, little content
64. good
65. Great talks concerning IPv6
66. Good. People need to turn off their cell phones. Or if you answer, just walk out and then talk. Don't talk while you are walking out.
67. Mostly worthwhile....
68. Overall Good. sore point was the IPv6 in the home panel. the Apple presenter good, the netgear presenter was bad.
69. IPv6 by the vendors was fairly uninspiring. Routing trees for BGP was completely unintelligible
70. ppresentations were very good and focused
71. Great Information! Good Stuff
72. n/a
73. All the general session talks were excellent, with the possible exception of the home IPv6 presentation, which drifted into a marketing talk (esp. by the netgear fellow).
74. Very Informative Google's keynote was informative and humerous. Didn't care too much regarding IPV6
75. Keynote was kinda funny, but not terribly informative.
76. Good
77. Great presentations
78. Very good overall. Enjoyed Vijay's presentation.
79. Good information, very good to see how people are handling IPv6 and getting the attention on it that is needed.
80. mostly excellent; the NetGear preso on the IPv6 enablement in the home panel was VERY much a sales pitch -- NOT APPRECIATED!
81. This wasn't especially exciting.
82. Keynote: Worse Is Better: Interesting, amusing, well presented Good to hear about IPv6 in action rather than about deployment
83. good apart from the Netgear guy.
84. Great speakers.
85. The IPv6 in the Home was variable. The Netgear guy was appalling and didn't deserve to be here.
86. v6 session after lunch.. too markety, need a better method for handling panels
87. Good
88. Excellent - Keep the IPv6 info coming.
89. No specific comment but the overall session was good.
90. Great! It was fascinating to see Mr. Gill's descriptions of the scale and type of problems that Google has to solve that I and my company never come near. :-) And I'm glad to see that Merit is making an effort to study each /8 before it's given out to the general public. Excellent talks. The "panel discussion" on IPv6 in the home, though, was not a Panel Discussion. It was three different vendor reps giving their individual visions on this topic (or vaguely related to this topic), with separate slides and prepared remarks, talking to the audience and not to one another! That is not a panel discussion, it's a PowerPoint competition. If there are panel discussions in the future, I want to see all the participants around a single semicircular table, talking politely to each other and interacting in response to audience questions.
91. The keynote was well delivered and had significant interesting information and perspective. Good choice. The 1slash8 information was interesting and useful.
92. Good. I learned some good info.
93. Nothing of value
94. The talks from Vijay and Lorenzo was excellent. 1/8 preso provided some interesting data
95. Everything went well today in general. It did started getting warm in the room. It was nice and cool in the morning, but when someone adjusted the temp it was too warm then. The only down part was during the IPv6 in the Home Panel. The presentation from the NetGear guy was not good at all. The Apple and Cisco presos were pretty good though. The Apple one went a little long which prevented a true panel discussion, but it was good if long.
96. Excellent. Vijay's presentation in particular was a stand out.
97. Interesting topics -- particularly enjoyed "Worse is Better" and "1slash8".
98. Very good
99. IPv6 presentations are painfully lame and useless, especially the Renesys and so far the IPv6 for the home. The Google presentation on IPv6 was better organized, but still largely uninteresting.
100. great stuff, liked Vijay's presentation best. Too many talks on IPv6 issues, there are other issues to discuss
101. good
102. a+ paid attention
(answered question) 102
(skipped this question) 81


M4. Monday Track Session: NANOG Transition Plan
1. Same as Sunday meeting. Where are the materials that were presented? Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:17 AM Find... 2. non-bill discussions were very encouraging. it was kinda fascinating witnessing history in action.
3. Have an open discussion
4. NA
5. Remarkably bloodless. It succumbed to the bikeshed problem, but that was inevitable.
6. n/a
7. Some sparks, but seemed reasonable progress.
8. very interesting discussion
9. important subject, would have recommended not sharing the whole budget as engineers love nothing more than picking apart numbers!
10. Did not attend
11. Well run considering the Topic.
12. Once again a good introduction to the issues currently in NANOG
13. Did not attend
14. didn't go
15. Too much time was spent arguing over accuracy of numbers. Dan attempted at first by disclosing it was just a pro-forma, but someone needed to step up and say let's move on, you don't like it don't be a member..
16. Good
17. Budget details was a waste of time, should have had more time to discuss Bigger Picture items
18. did not attend
19. didn't go
20. n/a
21. Again, very interesting given what's going on. However there still seems to be a lack of context.
22. didn't attend
23. Very interesting.
24. The pro forma budget was interesting to see, and overall it looks like the NewNOG board has the situation in hand.
25. Did not attend.
26. NA
27. fine
28. Good. Well run by Steve. Looking for more information.
29. informative
30. Good info
31. Still no detail as to the gating event making this necessary. While the session was OK, the need for the transition is still questionable and nothing has been offered as to how NANOG will be better after the transition.
32. Chaotic
33. PAINFUL - make the pain stop!! Seriously just do what other external organisations do at this point; have a case 'for' and a case 'against' and get someone external to run the vote using the standard eligible voters list. In the UK we'd use the Electoral Reform Society, but I'm sure there's an equivalent.
34. N/A
35. Who cares?
36. This very interesting
37. n/a
38. Excelent
39. Interesting
40. Good.
41. Good control of a contentious topic
42. not too good
43. Very good, the people up on stage were skilled at using the ban hammer.
44. Bikeshed. You guys need to talk to Ray Peletier at ISOC/IETF ... he could provide specific budget numbers from a similar event.
45. Good. Well needed by the community. I liked how the meeting was kept on track.
46. (mostly) respectful, healthy debate. the steering committee were open to listening to suggestions and good at structuring the discussion.
47. AWESOME. I think the committee was well prepared and took criticisms well, constructive or not (!).
48. Didn't attend
49. To the point and concise.
50. Glad to finally see the financials. Sorry some people tried to hog the mic instead of making substantial suggestions and questions.
51. I think the transition plan is going well and making progress.
52. Useful to hear about NANOG's new direction, but the comments section being dominated by Randy Bush got tired quickly.
53. Very informative -- kudos to the transition team for the work they've done so far.
54. Good but needed more moderation.
55. as good as could have been expected
56. would benefited from less duplication of sunday's slides, more interactivity. open the floor to participants early, ask for show of hands or comments on specific issues, etc.
57. Did not attend
58. This was the first time I heard about the transition plan. I was glad to be able to catch up with this important topic.
59. diverted attendance from technical bofs. bad.
60. Session went well. I'll support things. I don't think the financial plan has been given enough due diligence though. Way too much reliance on some large sponsorships that I just don't think will happen. While we need to figure out a way to create a base level of funds, I think will be hard to do so relying on these large Bronze/Silver/Gold sponsorships. The pessimistic view should have included $0 coming from those, not just limited to 1 and 2 of each category. I think that is the more likely scenario unless the board already has the 1 and 2 lined up.
61. Good
62. good
(answered question) 62
(skipped this question) 121


M5. Monday Track Session: Best Current Practices
1. missed it
2. IPv6 panel was excellent.
3. NA
4. n/a
5. Did not attend.
6. Did not attend
7. Enjoyed it
8. didn't go, but heard it was hella dry
9. NA
10. Interesting discussion. BCP is a good idea, I think that openness of the discussion of a BCP and the validation of a doc (by industry leaders) are important.
11. Very good
12. did not attend
13. didn't go, but heard it was hella dry.
14. very interesting idea, hope this takes off and is used by many
15. n/a
16. didn't attend
17. n/a
18. Did not attend.
19. NA
20. yawn
21. great
22. N/A
23. very useful
24. na
25. N/A
26. Could use more structure. Content was good, though.
27. Excelent
28. Interesting.
29. Did not attend
30. Eh...it turned from something I was really excited to hear about to people painting the bikeshed and talking about ITIL. Aaron just needs to roll the docs out and let people have their way with it, then figure out where the BCP fits.
31. A good brainstorm on how to structure a BCP library.
32. n/a would like to have attended.
33. Didn't attend
34. n/a
35. Good discuassion
36. Hopefully this step will get us closer to getting something online
37. Did not attend.
38. Good stuff, great idea, though will be tough to get consensus on how to implement. Best bet is to just do it, get something in place, then call for suggestions/refinements
39. Good discussions, could have needed a bit more moderation.
40. Valuable forum.. good idea
41. This was very useful and a great idea. Kudos to Aaron.
42. Interesting - went around in circles a little bit.
43. Great idea - I hope policy doesn't slowdown this project. KISS
44. Did not attend
45. I thought this was going to be Best Current Practices of other, larger, more experienced ISPs and network operators, which would then help me, a small network operator, to work better in my job. Instead, it was a forum on what would be the best way for the community to write Best Current Practices documents and where to store them. This was a fairly unhelpful title, at least to me; in retrospect, I would have attended the security track.
46. N/A
47. Excellent
48. good
(answered question) 48
(skipped this question) 135


M6. Monday Track Session: ISP Security
1. missed it
2. Tough audience!
3. the presentation was good but there should always be mic to ask question to help peaple to keep up.
4. Fiesty!
5. Very lively!
6. n/a
7. Did not attend, though I was told it was "lively" WRT china and i-root issues.
8. Good
9. Did not attend
10. Enjoyed it
11. excellent
12. enjoyed the mixed set of presenters and questions.
13. loved it, especially the crotchety network operators and the lively discussion
14. NA
15. Good
16. Very good discussion, absent Randy completely taking Joel's KARP objectives off the rails without considering the whole point of why Joel was there in the first place - i.e., to get feedback from operators.
17. Some very interesting talk and even more interesting discussion with the community wrt the IETF routing protocol key management work and the I-root problem from China. There was an interesting talk about the Prisem project (facilitating cooperation and communication among local communities of security info), but it got less discussion than it could have used. Perhaps forum organizers could be encouraged to have some discussion-priming questions prepared, just in case. The Cymru presentation had a plea for help but no real suggestions of how or what help would be useful. Sort of a "we're out of ideas, hope you have some ideas" theme.
18. loved this. it was fun. especiallly all the crotchety network operators.
19. The presentation on the issues with the i-root was the most interesting presentation and provided for good audience interaction and discussion.
20. I would expect more topics about DNSSEC validation enabling at ISP site - problems/solutions
21. Learned a lot on botnet detection and prevention
22. only caught the beginning...it was useful...but got pulled away by an outage.
23. nice discussions on I-Root :) "Investigating Botnets and Current Attribution Feasibility" was interesting to hear.
24. need more tech data.
25. n/a
26. One of the best sesions in this NANOG yet..
27. Too much stuff. Needed more facilitation to keep on track - exceedingly important track. Would be interested in expanding it with an issue presentation juxtaposed with a real-world application experience (lessons learned) brief. Example: DNSSEC ... followed by ISP X's experience deploying DNSSEC.
28. Very useful, very interesting discussion, specially the KARP and Accidentally Importing Censorship.
29. Always a good time...
30. didn't participate
31. Useful
32. N/A
33. informative
34. Interest give and take between veterans.
35. time limits were not imposed/followed, slightly unprofessional and impassioned discussion dominated. Request the organizer to better "enforce" or establish standards for presentation of controversial topics.
36. Good info
37. I attended this. it was so-so.
38. na
39. Pretty good.
40. Always useful.
41. Some valuable information
42. Very useful
43. Interesting quarrels.
44. Excelent
45. Did not attend
46. Did not attend
47. mediocre
48. DNSSEC related talks were relevant and on topic, but felt that the 'KARP' related one was less a talk but a plea to validate the speaker ...
49. Didn't go
50. needed to be longer
51. There was no audience microphone in the room, which caused interesting but unstructured conversations.
52. This devolved into discussions of DNS security and a bit on Botnets that was ok.
53. n/a would like to have attended.
54. Awesome! Secret Service guy was cool
55. Moderator let the forum become too wild.
56. This session was lively and excellent. The work presented on botnets was especially interesting, although the other discussions about the pros/cons of securing routing protocols was also entertaining and thought-provoking.
57. Did not attend.
58. Did not attend.
59. Loved it! There were some spirited disagreements but it benefited me to hear about people's concrete experiences and real-world situations.
60. Interesting discussions on botnet attribution and detection activity.
61. Interesting
62. Did not attend
63. Good..lot of disagreements from participants and back & forth arguments.
64. N/A
65. Not enough time/too many speakers.
66. Interesting topics and spirited discussions!
67. DNS presentations was very good - the other's a bit mixed. Moderator should probably have controlled the discussion a bit more
68. Not webcast :-(
69. Looking forward to it
70. have not attended yet.
(answered question) 70
(skipped this question) 113


M7. Beer 'n Gear!
1. too crowded
2. great food, very crowded
3. Great to mix with vendors and see their latest stuff.
4. it was a nice event, social in that case was perfect . nothing to say
5. Good
6. Fun
7. Way too loud, way too hot. Putting a bunch of router and server equipment into a room with hundreds or people is unbearable.
8. great event
9. Awesome. Great networking event
10. Wonderful food selection, good selection of vendors.
11. Great food, great socializing
12. Excellent sponsors, good gear. Nice to see some resellers come and get their time.
13. great as always
14. great!
15. Great!
16. Wow; what nice food. Thanks for the not-fried, healthier options!
17. Did not attend
18. Good opportunity to find out what gear was out there
19. fun!
20. space was a bit small at peak but otherwise very nice and much appreciated
21. A good time, as always.
22. i went. but i'm an introvert and don't like crowds much.i might've lasted longer if there'd been air circulation -- bring in fans to at least keep it moving? food was good. i drink alcohol, but i wonder how many recovering and non-recovering alcoholics are here, facing the dearth of alcohol.
23. OK, only one of the vendors had an interesting display setup
24. Good Food! Wished Cisco/Juniper had come with more hardware to show off.
25. It was nice to have it
26. Well organized, enough food, good food. Well done!
27. Good, as usual.
28. Very interesting gear presentations. Food was very very good and plentiful. I don't drink so I can't comment on the beer part. :-)
29. i went. but i'm an introvert and don't like crowds much.i might've lasted longer if there'd been air circulation -- bring in fans to at least keep it moving? food was good. i drink alcohol, but i wonder how many recovering and non-recovering alcoholics are here, facing the dearth of alcohol.
30. Great networking event
31. Good
32. great variety of vendors
33. Great food.
34. stuck in an outage. :(
35. did not attend due to jetlag :)
36. This was a great time
37. As usual this was a great event
38. fun as usual. such a small room though
39. Did not attend.
40. Bigger room needed. More vendors needed. Beer plentiful, thanks!
41. Duh!
42. woohoo
43. didn't participate
44. Useful
45. Good. I would have like to seen more vendors. Seems like the same old folks and same old gear.
46. okay
47. Very well attended. Great food.
48. very good. would recommend water available too. nice job.
49. Fun event
50. Excellent
51. very good
52. Yummy and knowledgeable vendor participation.
53. Beer Good...
54. room was loud, difficult to talk to people
55. Good food and drinks. Quality of the food best so far. But not much of Gear (freebies). Room was very small. Bumped into each other many times. Overall fantastic opportunity for networking.
56. good but the room was a bit small for the scale of the event
57. Beer was good.
58. Over crowded and very few vendors.
59. Beer!
60. Spoke to various vendors about relevant devices for my network and got some good information about devices I will likely purchase.
61. It was a best time to see new gears and meet with other attendees
62. Did not attend (I hate trade shows)
63. fun
64. Excelent
65. Too crowded
66. Good social
67. Very well attended.
68. Too few freebies from the vendors
69. good
70. Yay
71. we need mo betta beer!
72. good, although I think the various vendors should have had more visible displays....with the size of the room, it was not easy to determine who had what area.....Maybe the vendors should have brought more gear? Should there be a set of gear actually running and operating?
73. Harder to talk to vendors this year -- crowded.
74. good, as always.
75. Cool! :)
76. This was fine, but as a social function introductions were tough to come by.
77. excellent show by the vendors. Good and informative. The vendors might step up their "tech" a bit in terms of deep dives, instead of sending as many sales guys. e.g. the sunday night private party (dyn and silent partner) was more technically useful to me. I don't come for the giveaways, but want to meet the crew from the vendors at beer-n-geer if possible. Perhaps we could adopt a "very low key" 'bar code scan' for contact info like other conferences. That would need to be maintained very very low key by the vendors, but could produce a much better result for them and "I" as the customer.
78. Need more vendors
79. Room was a little packed, however atmosphere allowed interaction between operators and vendors.
80. Decent beer and decent gear. Food was great. A slightly bigger room would have been helpful, however, since I often found myself struggling to move around (and I'm no Andre the Giant).
81. Excellent as always!
82. Free Beer!!
83. Good event to meet other peers through the beers!!!
84. Alot of fun
85. Did not attend.
86. Not a lot of gear this time around.
87. Nice!
88. More Juniper shirts needed. Otherwise was great!
89. Usual good selection of beer and sponsors - what happened to NTT?
90. Good.
91. good food and beer.
92. Beer!
93. Room was a little crowded, otherwise pretty good
94. well done, better-than-average food selection!
95. Awesome as always. I think the room was a little small and made things uncomfortable. I would like to see the room size grow and allow for more vendors to participate.
96. Good to see what vendors had on display and product specification
97. Delicious fancy food and drink! Very loud, but that's OK. Good representatives explaining useful things about their gear... I wish I had gotten more time with the Cariden people.
98. Good food selection, and some of the tables had interesting gear.
99. good time, good vendors
100. Great. Food was exceptionally good.
101. Room too small
102. Great way to mingle and talk with all different people. A bit loud and small area.
103. What's not to like about free beer and food? :)
104. Food was good. Vendors were good.
105. Can't wait
106. Beer is always good.
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  GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING
G1. A few questions about social media: Yes No Response Count
Have you tweeted about this NANOG meeting at Twitter.com? 11.5% (18) 88.5% (139) 157
Have you commented about this NANOG meeting at any other social media site? 24.4% (38) 75.6% (118) 156
Have you searched for comments about this NANOG meeting at Twitter.com? 19.7% (31) 80.3% (126) 157
Are you a member of the NANOG Facebook group? 34.0% (53) 66.0% (103) 156

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G2. Do you subscribe to the mailing list nanog@nanog.org?
Yes 77.7%% (122)
No 22.3% (35)
If you answered No, why not?
1. Really? Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM Find... 2. Too many lists, not an operator
3. Not involved in community discussions.
4. i read the archives
5. Need to do so.
6. Will do that now....
7. Too much mail
8. It's enough to look to archives once in a time
9. Migrated e-mail addresses and forgot to re-subscribe
10. not enough time to keep up or even sift through
11. I'm not from USA. I attend this mainly to learn about trends, and new technologies/protocols/etc so I can try to implement them in my ISP (located in Costa Rica). I think I'll subscribe in the future, at least to have a reader role.
12. I am at my first meeting and have not signed up yet.
13. Oversight, will be in the future
14. Too many trolls
15. I am planning to do it now after seeing the benefits of it.
16. I check out the archives several times a day
17. Never subscribed.
18. Too many mails.
19. Follow on archives
20. Too much noise in the signal. I may start again.
22. I didn't know about it, and until now, hadn't thought to look for such a list ...
23. MLC (the CC) needs to drop moar ban hammer on people like randy and guilaiume FORTAINE.
24. First Nanog, still getting my feet wet.
25. Didn't know but will now. First timer
26. no real reason, just haven't done it yet.
27. too much noise, not enough signal
28. no reason
29. I read the NANOG mail via the nanog mailing list archive.
30. Too much traffic. I typically subscribe about once every two years, attempt to read it for about six months, give up and unsubscribe.
31. not sure if I want the traffic at this time..
32. 1st time attending, will sign up.
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G3. Please provide your feedback about the NANOG wireless network. If you had problems, please be specific about what they were and how you resolved them, or about suggestions for future improvements.
1. The network has been solid.
2. It's performed flawlessly for me
3. was good work well most of the time
4. Wonderful — thank you Merit & Netflix.
5. No problems
6. It's performed very well.
7. no problems
8. excellent
9. Network has been great. Mostly bee using the v4 A wireless.
10. Working great so far
11. i'm suffering intolerable packetloss on SSID "nanog". i appreciate your efforts .. please improve the wireless :>
12. Feedback on the WPA2 deployment: I don't think the APs can handle key management for this many unique clients. Monday was pretty painful. Tony's aware of the issue, but in the future if we want to do WPA the deployment may need to be a bit more dense in the general session room. Elsewhere it's great. The non-WPA deployment was great as usual.
13. It works better than the hotel's.
14. no problems. I like having the A network.
15. Seems to work ok
16. Pretty consistent and I didn't experience any problems. I did notice that the complimentary internet in our rooms was slower.
17. Excellent network
18. very good, the v6 network is also excellent
19. no problems
20. No problem.
21. I like the WPA2 with ldap
22. Works well.
23. It works without hitches....
24. I had problems with the wireless in the lobby on Sunday afternoon (high packet loss to the first hop). I cut over to the hotel lobby wireless during the problem.
25. Odd, but I can connect in the grand ballroom and italian room with no problem, but I can not connect when I am in the colonial room at all - not any nanog net, not the hotel net, nothing. I see good signal but connections fail. Weird.
26. Excellent
27. The NANOG WPA network has been a little flaky with DHCP and IP allocations..
28. the wired is dreadful slow, but the wireless is much better
29. no problems. Much better than my last nanog
30. no problems
31. Satisfactory speed, no connectivity issues
32. works very well
33. This has worked well
34. Have no had any issues
35. It has been rock solid.
36. Overall it was good
37. seems to be working well. I've noticed a couple of hiccups but no big deal.
38. i have no complaints
39. no problems
40. No problems at all
41. Excellent
42. No issues
43. wireless network has been great, both IPv4 and v6.
44. works great
45. works very welll
46. Good coverage, liking the wpa2.
47. Had issues with WPA setup ... Had to fall back to "open" wireless
48. works fine
49. Good.
50. Awesome as always.
51. No issues but the V6 facebook didn't work.
52. Great.
53. It has worked well for me
54. Worked well so far
55. Very good.
56. Very fast. havent had any issues
57. attimes it is slow. but overall happy with connectivity.
58. no issues on wifi within the session areas.
59. worked pretty well considering the number (and type) of users
60. Very good: No artifacts noticed. Good V6 support.
61. excellent, no problems.
62. Works just fine.
63. Got kicked off once, other then that it is great!
64. Very good
65. Works quite nice, congrats.
66. No problems,
67. All good
68. nanog-a generally reliable
69. Good
70. no issues
71. Good. Keep up the good work tkap.
72. Wifi worked
73. hotel has been outstanding. close by shopping (e.g. Walgreens) for sodas and other basic needs. Simple to handle.
74. Generally worked
75. Worked fine.
76. I have not had any problems with the wireless network.
77. the first time i've ever used v6 to do anything and i did it because it just worked and i didn't really even need to do anything. which is exactly as it should be. nicely done to everyone in the stack.
78. It was fine.
79. Good speed.
80. No problems so far
81. This was good except for the usual Windows 7 lack of specific instruction, but this isn't NANOG's fault.
82. Wireless? Wireless was fine. The power failed at the tables several times.
83. worked great. it's my only chance to use ipv6, since my home isp and work networks dont support it yet.
84. the network is good
85. No problems.
86. Easy connect, gets bogged down sometimes but does what I need it to do.
87. So far it has been flawless
88. Seamless. Thank you.
89. a little slow at times but ok
90. Worked well for me in the Grand Room, coverage a bit worse in space outside grand room. Held up well with the large attendance
91. I haven't had a single problem with the network
92. Wireless awesome
93. Very slow in the mezzanine outside the main ballroom.
94. Has worked fine.
95. Seemed to be pretty good so far. A bit slow to log into, but once on, its fine.
96. worked excellently. another job well done by tkap and associates.
97. Worked well/no problems.
98. Excellent service and coverage. Works everywhere I've used it, so far.
99. No problems for me
100. It worked well, with no observable issues.
101. useful
102. It worked fine for me.
103. no problems. Worked well.
104. Apart from the brief IPv6 outtage the network has been working very good and with decent speeds.
105. Everything was fine for me. Though I was about 20 feet away from the AP on the right hand side that was on the floor and moved to the speaker at some point.
106. no problems, wish I had info on how to get onto the secure wireless
107. good
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G4. What did you like/dislike about the meeting venue?
1. Crowded somewhat
2. the only thing i dislike was the place in the Grand room. there were missing place. i know it was an attendance record.
3. The ballroom is probably a bit small for the number of attendees, and the room between the ballroom and the hall can get congested.
4. Confusing hotel layout, I think.
5. Often hard to find various meeting rooms.
6. everything is close by
7. All is good
8. The hotel is historica and while some areas have been rebuilt, it is a bit tired.
9. Could have used a larger room for beer 'n gear
10. central location is great. lots of food and transit choices. however, this hotel treats their employees poorly. there are ongoing protests about this. e.g. http://ebar.com/blogs/?p=832 keep this in mind next time.
11. Good venue, plenty of space, power. Would be good to have some private breakout rooms space for informal meetings where privacy is required...
12. SF is a great location, but can get expensive. The St. Francis does work pretty well, though, having the breakout rooms pretty close to the general session and lobby is nice.
13. I like it.
14. It's a maze. Hotel rates seem a little high.
15. Nice venue. Just a little cold in the room ;)
16. I loved it. San Fran is a great city and we should hold meetings in similar cities a whole lot more. I believe we can attribute our large attendance to the location.
17. It was cold
18. This was one of the better venues I've ever attended at a NANOG meeting
19. the screens are difficult to see from the rear of the grand room.
20. All is well.
21. I'd be nice if they kept some beverages out longer (ie coffee all morning, soda all afternoon)
22. Westin St. Francis is very nice.
23. Likes: Nice location. Dislikes: lighting was quite dim...esp in rooms other than Grand.
24. Cost of hotel. (Sure you're hearing that.) I stayed elsewhere. Given the density of hotels really nearby I suspect that's common.
25. Liked the main room presentation setup with angled in screens - best I've seen lately. Great food, plentiful.
26. LIked thus far..
27. very elegant establishment
28. I love the venue.
29. power blocks missing in side rooms, microphone missing in side rooms so discussions are not heard very well
30. Rooms are great, building is interesting, very nice architecture
31. Not always enough seating
32. Weak bathroom on the middle floor. Tables a bit to close together.
33. I am ok with venue
34. this is a nice venue. would come back
35. I like this hotel, but the conference space is crowded in the hallways during breaks and it is tough to move about. Austin had ample space
36. expensive, but nice
37. Very good location. Good food.
38. I love it
39. Nice hotel, good size meeting rooms, good location.
40. Damn expensive parking. Itialian room is too small for the breaks. Beer and gear space was too small. Could not get to some vendors.
41. liked
42. Hotel is great with a amazing atmosphere. Aircon is too cold in the ballroom
43. A/C too strong in the Grand ballroom
44. excellent location, am able to commute locally. Hotel is very good. connectivity good.
45. bay area is most convenient. great walking area.
46. Liked the hotel.
47. Non-smoking hotel.
48. Good venue. Parking rates in this city are insane.
49. Great.
50. Older hotel - has it's pluses and minuses
51. hotel is horrendously expensive, wired ethernet in room didnt' work (as it didn't for many others), *everything* cost extra (wireless in room, gym access) and it was all way too expensive for a not very impressive hotel.
52. Some small screens on side would have helped as i couldn't see the small details of some slides.
53. no issues with venue
54. pretty good venue. no complaints.
55. none
56. somewhat expensive hotel wise, but hey!
57. hotel parking way too expensive
58. Internet is slow in guest rooms.
59. The venue was appropriate.
60. No coffee in between breaks. That's surprising (and it sucks)
61. Excelent
62. Superb hotel with a pleasant ballroom. The AV is excellent (especially sound)
63. agenda was a bit weak, more real operational content needed
64. Liked it.
65. Was good. A bit convoluted getting around in the halls. Would have liked for breakfast to start earlier. The AC was a bit cold in the main meeting room.
66. very simple complaint. not as handicap accessible as I would prefer. Would like "more" than one wide row in grand room, as I negotiate with a cane (some weeks yes, some no) and find it more comfortable to attend. The hotel is what it is, but they've also done a good job in assistance.
67. Maze like
68. Maze was tricky to figure out.
69. Beer&Gear room was crowded, not much air.
70. I like the location of the venue and the meeting rooms are good.
71. The hotel's room network was excruciatingly slow, and the rooms weren't top-notch in terms of cleanliness/newness.
72. Liked the city, the casual feeling. Disliked when operators start yelling at each other when they think the other person is wrong.
73. A lot of opinions on techie stuff. Its okay and is known to happen.
74. Liked the hotel room and the conference rooms.. no real complaints.
75. Overall, very good, including acoustics, which - as someone hard of hearing - are important. Very well-located venue. Very nice atmosphere except Elizabethan Conf C/D was ice cold. Needs more power outlets as some were greedy with it.
76. Meeting venue was fine.
77. parking was way too expensive!
78. great city and location. really cramped in the dining/food area.
79. other room than the grand room does not have the table and a little bit difficult to get a power point over there
80. The hotel staff for storing the bikes were rude. These are the folks parking the cars.
81. Easy to get to, enough room for everything/everyone, good location with a lot of options for accomodations and food.
82. The Hotel is a bit confusing..other than that the Facility is nice
83. Nice hotel, but a bit complex to navigate
84. too cold too cold too cold! turn down the AC wish the tower elevator stopped on the mezzanine level
85. Rooms expensive, but to be expected for location.
86. Price of this venue is just shocking. Air con was a bit morgue like.
87. Beautiful hotel -- very nice facilities and food. Would definitely come back here.
88. The rooms a bit cold. Other that, pretty good.
89. Plenty of room
90. excellent, high-class, establishment. well done by netflix.
91. Very attractive hotel. The layout was a little confusing. The location of the hotel in relation to the overall city was very nice.
92. San Francisco seems to be a bit expensive (my family is also buying food here, not on my employer's expense account), but maybe I'm just not used to living in big cities. But it's nice being right in the heart of things.
93. The venue is well organized, wished there was power connections in the other rooms for laptops.
94. Elegant hotel
95. I liked that it was in the city with a lot of nice restaurant around. I liked the Internet service in the guest room. The breakfast/break area was a little small for this crowd.
96. good location. Lots of choices after conference for social and eating.
97. Really nice location in San Francisco - it's easy to go out during the breaks and for those of us that travel from Europa it's a fantastic city to enjoy before/after NANOG. Easy to get to/from airport
98. Like everything about the venue so far. Little strange two floor layout, but that's fine. Would have preferred it to stay cold on the sides of the room, but I'm sure you guys were getting complaints for people too lazy to grab their hoody from their rooms.
99. great site, would come back here again
100. nice city
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G5. What worked well at this meeting?
1. The tutorial track was great, and the talks given on Monday were nearly uniformly good and relevant.
2. almost everything;-)
3. The outside events were all very close by — very handy.
4. Wireless.
5. location is great
6. Good sessions. Giveaways are good, great hosting/sponsors, good socials!
7. Grand Hall, nice room.
8. pretty much everything is going well, except for wireless packetloss and the lack of good beer choices.
9. Good social on Monday night. :-)
10. I think the tracks were appropriate, and things generally went pretty well.
11. I felt it was well organized
12. SFO is one of the best places for a conference
13. location, attendance, collaboration, facillities
14. timing so far has been great.
15. Meeting with guys for different companies.
16. Diversity of presentations
17. The breaks.
18. Net in the grand ballroom has been solid.
19. Agenda was good and on target, kept to schedule.
20. lots of great socials
21. everything
22. Great presentations, location
23. breakfast right outside the main meeting room was nice. Same for breaks.
24. The program is overall very good. The socials have been very close by and easy to find.
25. Schedule and punctuality.
26. Very well organized.
27. Everything worked well
28. Beer
29. power strips, wireless. One track.
30. all
31. Everything
32. tutorials. many new people. great hosts.
33. Pretty much everything. One of the smoother ones I can recall
34. wireless was good, all the tech stuff for meetings was good including sounds, video, etc.
35. Things ran on time and smoothly.
36. i think this meeting has worked out well. some of the other meetings like Defcon are very disorganized and chaotic. Nanog has their stuff together
37. everything..
38. it all seems to be going very well
39. Everything
40. All
41. Everything is smooth thus far.
42. beer
43. Good city selection.
44. wifi, power and desks, very good breaks and food etc.
45. audio, video and network all work well. Even sitting next to mic'd "questions from audience" sometimes hard to understand. Perhaps it's my location.
46. Everything else :)
47. So far I think everything have come together really nice.
48. Most things, especially the main presentation talks and the security BOF I attended.
49. logistics and talks
50. It was a good meeting
51. A lot of good topics and presenters. Well done.
52. Wifi, sound, visual fields were appropriate.
53. All the logistics, the socials, the signs, were excellent.
54. lots of good places to go for lunch nearby
55. wifi
56. Good presentation
57. pretty much everything...good visibility and sound setup made it easy to get involved.
58. Lots of power plugs, thanx.
59. lots of space in the room, didn't feel like I had to sit on someone's lap audio good
60. the A/V seemed to be consistently good
61. location.
62. everything, honestly, great host (netflix)
63. Giveaways were better orchestrated and had a more fair feeling.
64. This being my first meeting, it's hard to compare to any others. Overall it well organized.
65. The programs worked well for me. I learned new things.
66. venue and weather cooperated.
67. So far, everything has been fine.
68. Streaming worked pretty well, although it looks like the HD streams were a different feed and didn't show the slides being projected?
69. no complaints, all was run smoothly
70. the hotel is good
71. attendance
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G6. What should be improved for the next meeting?
1. Improve the resolution of the camera system. Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM Find... 2. Not an improvement, but a request... please think of keeping the meetings in major city locations.
3. At the parties, venues need to have private areas without the noise for conversations to take place. Both parties have been too loud to have any substantial conversations.
4. NA
5. We need to figure out a way to keep the coffee out longer in the mornings.
6. n/a
7. the wireless, pick a better hotel (in terms of how it treats its employees), more beer choices.
8. Personally it seems like there is this idea around NANOG attendees that everyone here is the best of the best, and there seems to be a lack of tutorials presumably because 'n one' here needs them, yet the mission statement of NANOG seems to state otherwise. I would like to see more emphasis on tutorials as an option to some of the main talks. I enjoyed both the MLPE and Automation tutorials on Sunday, and wish there were more tutorials to attend.
9. Some portions of the agenda were a little week.
10. break-out sessions?
11. More bottled water.
12. Keep it on.
13. Strict limits on questions at the end. People should be limited to asking one question and getting one answer, if they have more questions they can ask privately. Otherwise some questions end up being a public conversation limiting other's time.
14. Curtail/limit-duration-of bureaucratic discussions (eg. the new Nanog structure). Let's not not lose track of the actual goal....technical network operations. Sure, logistics are important...however, there are other ways to not was time for 500+ people most of whom are not too interested in the logistics etc.
15. wiki? local info pointers?
16. Power distribution on main meeting room - more power strips - put them on the floor.
17. nothing
18. Should have more vendor's presentation and detail.
19. nothing comes to mind
20. the tutorials should not overlap so much. I missed a couple due to overlap.
21. Longer lunch break
22. more mic's in the smaller meeting rooms. Videos of the meetings available for download by attendants/members.
23. coffee and fruit juice all day long
24. Plan the spaces for the number of folks.
25. nothing
26. More breakout sessions. Some of the general sessions not of interest.
27. Unsure.
28. less vendor pitching in presentations.
29. More comfortable chairs in the general session rooms.
30. Less discussions around the same IPV6 talks or a new spin on it.
31. All things are very good
32. The presentation slides are not put up on the web site quickly.
33. better content!
34. Need a table where speakers can report to so they can handle uploading the latest slides (with last minute revisions).
35. earlier breakfast. more private break out areas.
36. offer cloning so I can attend interesting parallel 'afternoon' tracks :-)
37. I prefer a wider layout to the big room.. hard to see slides at the back.
38. allow people to submit pix and publish a facepage of attendees on an opt-in basis.
39. n/a
40. There were very few "how to's" at this NANOG compared to previous events, and they were badly missed. More screens for people in back so they don't have to squint. I specifically sat up front to avoid this problem, but for some it was troublesome.
41. The speeches were mostly too much about IPv6, or almost deliberately hard to understand. Some were excellent, usually ones from google or Mac.
42. Make sure that the presenters have their latest slides on the website. Sometimes they use more recent slides for the presentation but it does not correspond with the ones on the website.
44. no idea
45. not much, overall a pretty good meeting
46. hotel pricing.
47. extend the NANOG wireless to the hotel rooms
48. None at this time.
49. no idea
50. keep the venues interesting and attractive
51. more coffee all the time.. not just during breaks.
52. Provide slides in HD streams. Post presentation materials to the website before a talk starts so that people can follow along on their own computer.
53. one more break per day
54. Again, I think this year seems really heavy on the IPv6 talks, would like a little more spread-out number of topics
55. Denver, CO
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G7. Do you have suggestions for topics and/or speakers for future NANOG presentations?
1. Anything but panels that are full of the same old people who are usually under-qualified to sit on these panels in the first place. Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM Find... 2. some more technical meat would be nice
3. Have law enforcement talk about how they work with network operators to facilitate investigations and best practices that help them out without invading customers' privacy.
4. expected to see more service providers/operators
5. No
6. I think the PC has been doing a great job. I'd volunteer for the PC if I thought I could do better.
7. n/a
8. no
9. See above.
10. More talks on ipv6
11. You might like to try to get a Mobile operator to tlak about their IP network and issues. The topic of IPv6 in the Home which was touched upon yesterday needs follow-up
12. Yes more on networking protocols.
13. Please....try to spell the problem more clearly. Going off without sufficient background-setting is a recipe for the talk being a "monologue".
14. Implications of Smart Grid, Tim Polk, NIST Working with DHS / CERT Update on RPKI, ARIN
15. I like this agenda - v6, security, routing, DNS.. along the right track.. Interesting to see more CPE/End system folk here, think it's a good thing.
16. RPKI real world implementation issues. How will those routers interact with RPKI?
17. I'd like to see some information about the broadband stimulus, and penetration of high capacity internet access in North America.
18. More IPv6 success stories.
19. Would like to see 'behind the scenes' type of presentation from large network operator. Architecture overview, etc.
20. similar
21. Subseacables
22. cloud computing impact on networks.
23. In a lot of ISPs, fixed / wired-line and mobile engineering groups are merging -- sharing the same backbone and now many of the same planning / ops responsibilities. More presentations around mobile and implications on backbone engineering, security, etc.
24. It would be interesting to hear more from actual operators about experiences in the field. Especially failures with some post-mortem analysis. I realize this is difficult because generally people don't like to air their issues - but we learn more from failures than many successes. We get a lot of presentations from researchers that are theoretical in nature.
25. A review/changes on ISP best practices
26. - IPv6 peering - real world scenarios - Scalable IPv6 solutions - parity in your IPv4 and IPv6 solutions - BGP free core - why and how - Network Performance Management - why and how
27. No
28. yes!
29. security, IPv6 (good coverage this time) in the residence. Seemed to be focus on the core, but the core is pushed to the consumer now with FIOS and related tech.
30. n/a
31. Keep up the IPv6 push. It's important. These seminars are mostly geared for large network operators, but not as much for operators of smaller networks. Some addition could be had for that.
32. Security, botnets, actual discussions from people who resolved individual problems, instead of "Here's the arcane things that we're doing at Cisco that aren't even RFCs."
33. More operational experiences.
34. more dnssec?
35. not really. this meeting had a good mix of different and interesting topics
36. Big nietwork migrations.
37. More IPv6
38. more v6, less research track. more peering.
39. None at this time.
40. no
41. more carrier focused, tools, ipv6 from a carrier perspective, etc.
42. would like to see more talks about analyzing IPv4/v6 traffic with an eye toward application usage analysis and how that relates to cloud computing
43. BGP security
44. more "how we did something wicked awesome and/or huge and scalable" vs academic analysis
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G8. Suggestions and volunteers for future NANOG Hosts, who work to locate the venue, provide connectivity and staff the meeting.
1. I'd suggest asking Akamai if they wanted to host in Boston.
2. they have been great
3. Akamai, apple, nlayer, facebook
4. n/a
5. this is a question?
6. Google
7. .
8. Dallas, Denver, Chicago, St. Louis (big central cities in US with major air carrier support. NAP cities should be good for finding hosts.
9. n/a
10. thanks
11. More meetings in San Francisco
12. N/A
13. Hawaii.
14. no
15. nowhere cold
16. Keep up the awesome work. Your efforts are much appreciated. Would be nice if you could put up a web page acknowledging the hard work done. simple, but professionally nice thing to do.
17. n/a
18. Centrally located venues where lots of geeks live are wonderful. Dearborn, MI is not centrally located.
19. For a networking function, the lanyards were too long, so that we couldn't easily see someone's name or title. I missed the newcomers breakfast which should be opent o all and called the "newcomers/introductory" breakfast so that we who watn to meet people can.
20. More outside the US. Maybe Mexico?
21. copy this meeting
22. Keep to major cities, as I can combine other business with Nanog meetings, helps with sign off for travel etc.
23. None at this time.
24. no comment
25. good folks
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G9. Suggestions and volunteers for the NANOG Marketing Working Group and future NANOG sponsors: (Whom should we recruit for monetary support in exchange for exhibit area, corporate visibility, and community recognition?)
1. none
2. n/a
3. no opinion
4. Anyone that needs the Internet to reach their customers - Amazon, Starbucks, Expedia ....
5. n/a
6. no thanks
7. no
8. Would like to actively recruit "tech" talks from the current group of beer-n-gear vendors. Not sales pitch, but focus on upcoming tech. Tell apple to "ditch" the standard disclaimer stuff, it's annoying and insulting.
9. Great to see a grey market vendor at the B&G.
10. n/a
11. Soak Google and Microsoft for all they're worth. :)
12. They seem to be doing a good job.
13. The guys with money - Google, MS, cisco, Juniper....
14. copy this meeting
15. None at this time.
16. no comment
17. good folk
(answered question) 17
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G10. Why do you attend NANOG?
1. To conduct business. Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM Find... 2. social networking/tech presentations
3. To network and interact with my peers and to understand the current state of the art in network operations.
4. Info on v6 deployment among carriers, among enterprises; and to see some of the latest carrier networking technologies / innovations
5. to meet peaple, gather intelligence, discuss of techniques....
6. To meet large network operators
7. I don't know why I attend any more
8. To meet people involved in network discussions and learn about policies and procedures for deploying and managing networks.
9. local presence, great group of attendees, some interesting presentations
10. Make contacts and learn
11. Stimulating topics, able to examine and learn from [sometimes help with] hard problems, rub brains with folks at my level.
12. Meet others in my industry, learn from experts
13. To network with the members.
14. to learn stuff, to geek out.
15. Meet peers, listen to interesting presentations.
16. The hallway conversations are of great value, and one can get a lot out of the general sessions and BOFs.
17. Meet with customers.
18. To learn what teh tech community was talking about.
19. I was here primarily for beer and gear, but it was great attending all the talks.
20. To interact with counterparts colleagues, customers and friends in the industry. The opportunity to get updates and best current thinking of the operations of critical North American networks is invaluable.
21. Meet new people and to learn as much as I can about networking in general.
22. First time to see how it is useful.
23. Catch up with community members and hear what's new/happening
24. Peering, visit San Francisco
25. To get a different perspective on the interesting technical problems.
26. here latest word about network operation, routing behavior, problems and solutions, direct from those who are doing the work.
27. Content. Updates on IPv6, DNS and understanding the challenges and opportunities facing the network operations community.
28. Personal networking. Stay current on technology.
29. Networking with colleagues - some on content but most of it is available elsewhere.
30. to expand my network engineering knowledge and meet / socialize with customers
31. To get a feel for what's on peoples minds, both in the directions the talks take as well as the general schmoozing and interaction.
32. To see how NANOG works and what topics it discuss
33. Team Cymru is committed to NANOG and we attend and present at as many events as possible
34. to stay up to date what is going on in the ISP community
35. To listen to what the community is discussing through the presentations and an opportunity to network with others in the community.
36. Meet vendors/peers face to face and to learn about projects that are not within my day-to-day job
37. It's a very marketing free conference and always has big value.
38. Meet the people and find out what is going and what ops are doing
39. Technical Information and social / professional networking.
40. program content and the opportunity to see people I usually communicate with via email or irc
41. make connections, learn new things
42. I attended NANOG to learn what operators do in the US, so I can see trends and in general try to take some ideas to improve my ISP, located in Costa Rica. Latin America is always behind so, I'd like to narrow the gap when possible.
43. To keep up to date with what's going on
44. Meet peers, learn best practices, see upcoming technologies
45. it's my first meeting, I am a systems/network engineer and I find the content of the talks very useful.
46. Networking, talks are hit and miss. Usually a good time.
47. for the women
48. Technical data and social networking
49. to learn about what is going on in the industry so as to keep connected and up to date.
50. To meet peers and verndors and to learn more .
51. Ability to meet with peers and colleagues at a common location (ie: People COLO)
52. Network and listen to what other people are doing.
53. interact in person. good presentations. affordable option for company.
54. Presentations ... Subsidized family vacation
55. contacts/face to face meetings.
56. Presentations + meet people
57. center of the network-plumbing universe; no other conference has this sort of makeup (perhaps interop comes the closest).
58. Community networking.
59. Technical information primarily, interaction with colleagues.
60. Meet partners / customers / colleagues.
61. To interact with the community.
62. To learn about new technologies, catch up with old friends, network with peers, etc.
63. to network with other experts around the world and catch up with friends in the industry mostly.
64. To know the problems existing in the networks
65. the discussions seemed interesting. and our offices are located close by so it was an easy sell to the boss.
66. learn stuff and NETWORK with community....
67. Primarily to hear news about the community and what's going on in the industry
68. meet up with folks and listen to some interesting talks
69. Presenting
70. meet people in the industry, learn what everybody else is doing.
71. Presenting at the research forum. Interacting with operators to get feedback on our work.
72. Getting and staying in contact, seeing what others are up to.
73. Bussiness
74. To keep up to date with our community development and meet and interact with people.
75. Peering and education.
76. networking, job serach
77. networking with peers, face time with peer/partners from far away, drink lots of beer
78. Social networking and to get a deeper understanding of the issues affecting us (ie. IPv6 implementations) in a more interactive environment ...
79. Peering, friends, etc
80. good presentations. Various peering discussions. networking within the community.
81. to network, to meet people who do the tech, and to see the reactions to presentations about how folks are doing business.
82. Hallway conversations
83. Social connections -- keep up on new idea.
84. Networking and looking for research topics
85. To expand my personal network and put faces on the people I talk to on irc
86. To learn and to network with fellow network geeks.
87. allows me to get out of my bubble and see what the rest of the community is doing and or interested in.
88. Wanted to know what this is about
89. To learn the state of the field and meet some of my peers.
90. 1) Brain candy 2) Social networking (to meet all those people I communicate with blindly over the last year)
91. To learn and inspire. Owen Roth.
92. meet people and learn about what's real in networking
93. get updates from the netops field and hot issues in the industry. learn new topics. network with vendors and peers.
94. to widen up the knowledge and to get to know other peers from other region.
95. To interact with the networking community.To get latest updates on the happenings in the networking community.
96. Connecting with peers and keeping up with what is happening in the community.
97. Nanog's are an excellent place to meet new contacts
98. Networking, education, parties.
99. We are a large content site and social network platform, not an ISP, but it's always educational technically and culturally to hear so much that overlaps with our own work on WANs and data center connectivity.
100. am a network engineer who is looking to connect with others, including past coworkers
101. To meet people with a common intrest
102. Content/meer peers/other engineers
103. Meet contacts, learn new technologies, better understand the internet as a whole, and try to make the internet a better place through community feedback.
104. To network with other networks; to present my own experiences with others
105. presentations and meeting colleagues
106. "Networking with others".
107. To meet my peers and see what other folks are doing.
108. social networking
109. To see where the industry is going.
110. I attend NANOG as a way to grow my professional knowledge and social connections. I enjoy the overall experience.
111. To learn about new networking topics, mostly, and to get perspective from much larger network operators -- i.e., to know how the big boys do things that we are just starting to do.
112. Get to meet and talk to other operators, see emerging new technologies from vendors and the general direction/trend of operators
113. To hear from the operators (as part of the direct presentations, comments from the floor, and hallway conversations) about what is actually needed to address real-world issues.
114. meet other ISPs and keep current of the knowledge of the Internet industry
115. I ask myself the same question every time I read the agenda
116. to network and learn what's new in the industry.
117. To meet people from the industry, get some inspiration and a few days away from my busy schedule at work
118. Technical discussion with peers. REAL Peering discussions with peers. Industry discussions with peers. Vendor insight from peers. Networking for recruiting to my company as well as seeing what else is out there for myself.
119. Exposure to new people and real-world information.
120. Learn interesting things about current networking. Meet and talk with people from other organizations who do jobs like mine.
121. Meet people and learn about state-of-the-art deployments
122. LOVE this conference - very technical, not too stuffy, very respectful. Plus a great chance to meet the field's rock stars.
123. to learn
124. hallway and interesting keynote-style presos of awesomeness, lightning talks.
(answered question) 124
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G11. Is there something you would like to comment on which does not fit into a question above? Please leave your comments here.
1. Nope
2. Merit would be a great contractor for the "newnog" thing to use.
3. n/a
4. naw
5. No
6. Like the fact that conference clothing give-aways are more often available in small sizes. (I am female.) Please keep that up.
7. nope..
8. I have serious concerns about the financial stability of NewNOG. While Merit may be gouging Nanog for the meetings, not having an established track record for running presentations will affect Newnog's ability to get favorable venue contracts...and the venues will likely demand much more up-front. If you go too far into vendor sponsorship then NewNOG will be accused of becoming a vendor lapdog, not enough and they'll be financially unstable. You may want to consider, in addition to genuine sponsorships, selling larger sponsorships that will guarantee memberships for a period of time. This will give you a starting liquid cash base to get the first Nanog covered...but will be at the expense of future revenues.
9. If there are 3 meetings a year then at least 1 should be in the Bay Area. For better or worse there are a LOT of operators here.
10. everything is going well, thanks!
11. SC doing great.
12. Thank you for having this NANOG in a downtown core, and not in the middle of nowhere like Dearborn. :)
13. No
14. Netflix deserve congratulations on hosting both NANOG and the Monday night social which was one of the best in recent times.
15. would like a handicap spot, or the ability to request a seat reservation based upon a special need. (am permanently disabled, room to stretch left leg really does help my comfort) ;-) but, seriously, all was well done thus far. good job.
16. n/a
17. Presenters *must* be understandable, and some presenters had unfortunate dialectical or language accents that made them extremely difficult to understand.
18. I noticed the nearby hotels were almost uniformly cheaper than the discounted St. Westin rate. In fact, I was able to find a better rate at $204 from a stock Expedia request. This may be normal.
19. Thanks very much for having us.
20. None at this time.
21. no
22. Thanks to Netflix for hosting this NANOG
(answered question) 22
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