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NANOG49 Survey Results for Wednesday
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NANOG49 Wednesday Survey Results |
San Francisco, CA (June 13-16, 2010) |
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B1. How did you attend NANOG?
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Response Percent (Response Total) |
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In person in San Francisco |
98.7% (157) |
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Via webcast
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1.3% (2) |
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159 |
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0
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B2. How many NANOG meetings have you attended?
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This is my first meeting |
28.3% (45) |
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Less than 5
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28.9% (46) |
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More than 5
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11.9% (19) |
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More than 10
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11.3% (18) |
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More than 15
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5.0% (8) |
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More than 20
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14.5% (23)
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159 |
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0
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B3. Overall, has this NANOG meeting been useful to you up to this point? |
| Very Useful |
49.4% (78) |
| Useful |
48.7% (77) |
| No Opinion |
1.3% (2) |
| Not Very Useful |
0.6% (1) |
| Useless |
0.0% (0) |
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158 |
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QUESTIONS ABOUT TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY EVENTS
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T1. Tuesday's General Session presentations
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1. Excellent! Loved the ASIC talk and the Large Leak Detection, and also Shortest Path Bridging.
2. The talks about route filtering were a little more basic ("if we filter things will get better"), and a few of the presenters were quite .. monotone. The lady presenter had better data & better presentation than the other.
3. Very interesting. I particularly liked the three papers about security in BGP/routing.
4. Program Committee is doing great!!
5. BGP talks were great
6. The IPv6 talks were actually very good.
Content from Google Excellent
7. Sharon Goldberg's BGPSec presentation was very interesting and informative. I was previously unaware of the impact BGPSec protocols might have on traffic routing, et al.
8. good
9. Very good with great information
10. ASIC talk: great material/topic, bad presenter. Should re-attempt this with somone more engaging at Juniper.
11. Netdot, wide BGP communities, dot1aq, and enterprise QOS were great. RPKI for route validation looks to be very useful once deployed.
12. How Secure are Secure BGP Protocols was a great presentation - really liked all the routing security preso's. v6 Preso's were good, but was surprised when the Netgear presentation turned into an ad for their gear.
13. Good content
14. Informative
15. the haiti ixp talk was very good. the afternoon talks on securing bgp, stub prefix filtering, route leak detection, and roa/rpki were very useful.
16. Good overall.
17. BGP Sec! yay
18. Very useful.
19. This is Good information. Glad I came here
20. Missed most of the. Hallway track
21. Not quite as good as some others. 802.1aq went on too long, ASICs wasn't that compelling, didn't go into the interesting areas, too high level overview. Enterprise QoS was kind of interesting though.
22. good
23. Pretty good, though i question the benefit of talks about how to configure routers by showing IOS command line instructions on the powerpoint slides. I suspect the expectations of a talk at NANOG may be rising :)
24. Pretty good. The BGP presos were EXCELLENT.
25. ASICS presentation seemed off-track. Consider focusing on product selection, architecture issues, etc. good info and well presented but network operators do not build switches. BGP security presentation - would have loved more time for this presentation. Haiti - would have liked more lessons learned information.
26. Excellent in general.
27. Good - especially the Secure BGP research. The lightning talks needed stronger stewarding/chairing to keep the agenda to time.
28. Great variety of topics.
29. Good line up. Nice mix of research and in use talks.
30. Generally pretty strong this day, the ASIC preso ran a little long and may not be that interesting to most operators.
31. Really good.
32. Very good
33. Good and bAd
34. I found all of the BGP discussions to be presented nicely.
35. Interesting
36. While the ASIC presentation was well-presented, if somewhat slanted, presentation of the reality of ASICs, I am not sure how much utility it really had.
The BGP security / leaking presentations were a good set. It is inevitable, but unfortunate, that it was not possible for there to be more disucssion about whether the various assumptions were usesful or meaningless, and why.
37. The ASIC talk was very very under it's audience...so it largely wasted our time.
The haiti talk was good
Securing BGP protocols was putting numbers to best practices that have been around for 15 years....well the prefix and asn filtering on customers part anyway....so it's interesting, but I questions it's value.
The lightening talks and .1aq were good.
The google enterprise qos talk was a waste of time.
38. The lightning talks sucked.
39. very interesting. good speakers
40. good selection
41. like the asic presentation
42. Enjoyed the BGP presentations
43. Great!
44. very informative
45. solid, nicely done
46. Good session just had some delays on pdf archives
47. Was ok
48. Not as useful as Monday, but the BGP hijack talk was good.
49. Morning sessions were quite intersting - ASIC and Haiti presentations were the most interesting
50. Very good day in general. ASIC presentation started a bit slow but some good stuff in the end. Haiti panel extremely interesting.Sharon Goldberg really made BGP sexy! Nice to see Huawei being on the panel with an interesting preso.
51. Good
52. Excelent
53. Enjoyed the Haiti IX presentation
54. things ran a little late.
55. pretty good stuff
56. The BGP security talks were excellent. The other talks were of mixed value and quality, but on balance still worth attending.
57. Great content
58. Good. not as good as monday's though
59. the s*BGP stuff had potential but lacked operational substance and reasonable conclusions. in general, the content selections were interesting, but the presentations were lacking in polish
60. Great
61. The Haiti recovery panel and Sharon Goldberg's presentation on BGP security were both very good presentations.
62. good talks. great to hear about Haiti. Sharon Goldberg's talk particularly clear. good bgp discussions all day. Carlos Vicente's lightning talk helpful
63. There was a lot of good information to digest. The series of talks on BGP route leaks and security was very good, but there was some overlap that could have been avoided with better coordination or perhaps by starting with an overview of secure BGP options and RPKI/ROA.
64. Great sessions.
65. Generally interesting. Content typically interesting, but presentation shaky and often causes loss of concentration or interest.
66. Some harder to follow than others, but all interesting at times. General highlights were the BGP security and 802.1aq, but the absolute highlight was Sharon G's talk on "How Secure are Secure BGP Protocols?"
67. great stuff. enjoyed the researchy talks even when they weren't always particularly practical.
68. Ok.
69. The ASIC presentation was great. The researcher from BU had an interesting presentation.
70. Excellent
71. Unfortunately, I hit the survey link a little late to get my Monday feedback in, so this is combined feedback; Monday, the google optical network presentation kicked ass (in general, Monday was a really good day for presentations). Tuesday, the 802.1aq presentation was interesting, and the netdot talk was such a teaser, I want to know so much more about it!
72. Most useful for me was the NetDot lightning talk. I also liked "How Secure is BGP?"
73. good
74. Better than Monday; a lot of useful topics I am interested in.
75. Good intro
76. I especially liked the ASIC presentation, and the Haiti session was interesting as well
77. 802.1aq very liked. Research girl on filtering did a good job.
78. Need more v6 content
79. liked the secursty talks
80. Secure routing policy preso is good.
81. It's Tuesday morning and I want to comment on Mondays presentations. Please fix the survey to allow for comments on the day before. Also, this is asking for comments on Wed in the future! Please please please please split these into 3 surveys.
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T2. Tuesday Peering Track
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1. My first time watching Peering... quite fascinating and educational.
2. Good, but has been slightly better in the past. The "not a debate" was a little flat.
3. did not attend
4. Less cake than usual.
5. Excellent on the AIX input.
6. n/a
7. Was fun moderating.
8. good as always
9. Peering track flowed very well and was better lead than others.
10. Too much hand-waving and promotion. Should focus more on *technical* issues related to peering. Also, WBN is completely disrespectful and out of line, could we ban him please?
11. Nice roundtable format, beneficial.
12. IX Updates are always useful
Missed the individual networks announcing their peering updates
13. A little less structured, and it worked well. (lots of IX updating)
14. Did not attend
15. Great, as always
16. Interesting, relevant as Peering Coordinator.
17. good
18. Shipman did a good job organizing the session.
19. Great. Well run. Good work by the moderator.
Equinix presentation was too salesy though, but I do recognise the importance of communicating the S&D/EQIX integration work to the userbase, it's a tough balancing act.
20. Excellent. Good to hear about where folks are and what is going on. The IPv6 peering was also interesting to see the current state of thing. The debate on peering vs transit was a bit preaching to the choir.
21. Enjoyable as always, but one note...if the number of IXs represented at NANOG continues to increase, it might be good to break out the IX updates from the peering track (as it used to be.)
22. -
23. I didn't attend it
24. Sales event for ixes and peering forum. Not as fun as it used to be.
25. Very good way to get my name out there and to know what is going on with all of the IX's.
26. It was nice to get an update from all of the exchanges
27. Great work on the peering session. Enjoyed the transit vs. peering dialog.
28. most important track
29. It was a good event to get an update about peering
30. didn't attend
31. Fantastic session although IXP's could do more effort in their slides.
32. didn't go
33. business as usual :)
34. was very good
35. More background info for the newbies' benefit would be valuable
36. Very informative
37. did not attend
38. Very informative
39. ok
40. Seemed very popular, standing room only.
41. Very useful.
42. Worst peering forum ever. At least Bill Norton engaged people. This peeing forum was stale and boring. The leader didn't even venture more than 5 feet from where he stood the entire time. Nathans "creative peering" was a rehash of Bill Nortons peering play book and all the techniques he mentioned are well known, it was a complete waste of time.
43. Excelent
44. n/a
45. n/a
46. very entertaining and productive. well done, jon!
47. Peering Rocks. IX updates were very useful
48. Did not Attend
49. Enjoyable/informative as always
50. Did not attend
51. Didn't attend.
52. jon did a *fantastic* job of making the peering forum much more accessible to newcomers--explaining jargon and terms and really just making the whole community clearer.
53. Great info, I think the "not a debate" needed some more rehearsal as I feel it could have generated more discussion if the 2 presenters didn't simply agree on a point. Additional time may have been beneficial to the discussion as well.
54. Fun.
55. Unfortunately, had a meeting from 4-5, so I ended up missing it. :(
56. For me, a good intro to the peering community.
57. Good. Glad that the meeting room was spacious and was able to accommodate all the attendees comfortably.
58. I liked the presentation on value peering. A bit theoretical though.
59. was not able to attend
60. Fun as always.
61. Entertaining as usual.
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T3. Tuesday Research Forum |
1. Thought this was a good selection of presentations, and about the right length. I didn't agree with everything presented, but that's to be expected.
2. N/A
3. did not attend
4. Very educational overall.
5. Na
6. Did not attend
7. Good session
8. good
9. Some very interesting presentations. The DNSSEC visualization was particularly interesting to see.
10. Good. The DNSSEC visualizer was the best part of the track.
11. Very good.
12. Excellent.
13. Did not attend.
14. N/A
15. Inspiring, keep on doing this! :)
16. I didn't attend it
17. I did not attend this forum
18. These were an itneresting collection of presentations.
19. I'd had high hopes for this..but it wasn't very interesting. The DNSSec visualization was interesting, but really only for it's 'neat' value.
20. it was ok. got the most out of 802.1aq .. help give me options out of STP
21. short talks was a very good idea
22. liked this a lot
23. ok
24. Interesting but nothing *really* groundbreaking - seems like academics are figuring out on their own a lot of stuff that people already do.
25. DNSSEC presentations was very good.
26. Excelent
27. n/a
28. n/a
29. Most talks were interesting, although somewhat esoteric.
30. Good stuff
31. I enjoyed the presentations on BGP
32. dnssec, excellent.
33. Attended the Peering and DNSSEC presentations. They were informative, but not very relevant for me. Good food for thought
34. More great information
35. Interesting.
36. Not interesting.
37. The researchers clearly need to reach out to the community to understand the complexity of the issues before trying to make 9 assumptions that have little or no bearing on reality.
38. Great information
39. The eyeP talk could have been really useful, if it had showed more of the drilldown into specific ASes; less general high-level explanation, it was pretty intuitive, so that part of the talk dragged on, and he didn't really have any time to go into the drilldown demonstration.
40. Good overall information, some purely academic of little value
41. Interesting topics including route diversity.
42. The BGP talks were great
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T4. Wednesday's General Session presentations
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1. good wrap up content, interesting topics for the final day
2. Farallon Islands completely fascinating! Thanks!
3. Love the wireless presentation - good local content.
4. Couln't tell from title what "Layer 0" means
5. Morning - snoring...
6. The presentation "Inspect Before You Connect" by Tyler Vander Ploeg (JDSU) was probably the most educational so far.
7. both so far have been very good
8. Excellent as usual
9. They are informative
10. The fiber cleaning presentation said a lot of things that seemed obvious, but
11. Interesting wireless presentation
12. Informative and in depth
13. Wireless was very useful, as was fiber talk.
14. Enjoyed RF talk
I can now make the case for fiber scopes
15. Farallons talk was great.
16. Fiber guy was really good
17. Excellent, particularly "Inspect before you connect"
18. good
19. very interesting, esp. the wireless preso
20. The one on fiber smacks of a vendor presentation.
21. Farallon presentation, excellent. Layer 0 good info
22. Lok the fiber presentation - good basics that everyone doing field work NEEDs to know.
23. Good stuff. Need to work on keeping things on time.
24. Nice to have the local content.
25. Of course, I like ours (Farallons) but wish I had more time. :-)
The fiber talk on clean connectors was great. Drive home what we knew but good to hear it again.
26. Wireless presentation was fantastic, thanks.
Not sure what to make of the JDSU presentation yet...it's either marketing, or useful.
27. Great island talk
28. The information presented in the wireless discussion will be very useful later this year for me as I have a similar project
29. So far so good.
30. The discussion of the realities and difficulties of physical connectivity for optics is a good presentation, given well.
31. The Farrallones wireless talk has been one of the better talks of the whole conference.
32. Great Slides so far!
33. excellent
34. too many slides on the wireless presentation, but in general quite interesting.
35. Interesting wireless job to Farrallon Island.
36. So far its great
37. excellent so far
38. 1st part wireless was great knowing the challenges were solved and how they did it.
39. ok
40. The Farallon Islands talk was really good... showing network engineers doing what they do best.
41. Farallon Islands presentation was cool :)
42. Nice to see some RF presentation on NANOG - we need more of that
43. Excelent
44. so far so good
45. great, it's interesting to see stuff like the farallon islands stuff
46. The Farallon wireless talk was great and interesting.
47. Great wifi
48. god so far.
49. I like the break from a more technical stand point
50. great farallons talk. Lightning talks always helpful!
51. Good sessions
52. Uh, it's only Wednesday now, but so far, this first one is good!
53. I missed my chances at the first two drawings by waiting too long to hit the survey link; not gonna let that happen today, so I'm getting my survey in *early!*
54. Haven't seen them yet :-)
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T5. Did you visit the Vendor Collaboration Room on any day?
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| Yes |
53.3% (72) |
| No |
46.7% (63) |
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What are your comments about the Vendor Collaboration Room?
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1. good content, would be great to see more content there in the future
2. Pretty small and unimpressive, I'm afraid. Nothing like the Comcast dsLite demo at NANOG in Philadelphia.
3. I would have liked a little more vendor people there to collaborate with.
4. Tell vendors to bring big screen monitors showing "cool stuff" so that people get drawn into,
5. awesome
6. it seemed under configured, and underused.
7. I would like to see more of it!
8. It was a good place to talk about ipv6
9. Good addition, would like to see again. Good job Brzowski.
10. Kind of small-scale, like Beer n' Gear without the beer. The fully-running network was interesting, but it would have been more interesting with attendees being permitted to touch and change things.
11. It wasn't until Wednesday morning that someone mentioned that this room was an opportunity for Vendor's to show their IPv6 capabilities. From the name, it sounded like a session for vendors to get together amongst themselves. I did not realize it was open to all attendees (Better description in agenda would help)
12. It's nice to see not just gear, but gear working together. We should do a lot more of this, not just surrounding v6 but other subjects as well.
13. n/a
14. Wanted to talk to vendors but they weren't there. More detailed diagrams of what we were looking at and benefits of their deployment would have been helpful.
15. Wish I got a chance to talk with Vendors with equipment in the room
16. Not really into gear, more concerned with forming personal connections and learning.
17. didn't see much vendor general interaction, more private meetings
18. great idea...make it bigger!
19. Good & busy.
20. It needs a different name. Sounds like it's for vendors, not all attendees. Better location than AUS though. At least it's on the same floor.
21. Would like to see the vendors themselves in there to chat with them.
22. very informative about new product on the market
23. Noone there to explain what was going on.
24. Booth babes.... just kidding.
25. Seems more like a seating area than an area where active work / collaboration is going on.
26. n/a
27. It needs more vendors!
28. did not have a chance unfortunately there were other schedule of interest, hopefully there will be a schedule next time that won't conflict.
29. A10 needs their lab env to be a bit more solid - live troubleshooting makes you look bad.
30. I did visit
31. it needs a better venue
32. there was kit out, but no-one interested in showing how much of the stuff worked. I went in a few times.
33. Schedule an actual meeting/lighting talk to pull more people in
34. Good demonstration of vender interoperability with IPv6 hybrid deployments
35. Nice to see gear working together in an actual deployment.
36. need to publicize a bit more (maybe a pdf within the agenda) - for more participation.
37. good source of water.
38. It's a quiet place to work. :)
39. unclear how to interact with it. no obvious interface--just boxes on the table.
40. Where exactly is the collaboration? Trying to understand the value.
41. A lot of good stuff
42. Sounds like a wonderful idea; looking forward to seeing it in person when our company has enough budget to send me to another NANOG in person. ^_^;
43. I spent an hour or so there, shmoozing with vendors and collecting shwag. Fun stuff.
44. Like it a lot. As an ISP employee, I am always interested what others are doing
45. A little bit understated. Could do more with it.
46. nice facility
47. Could have been bigger.
48. Liked the Comcast v6 demo
49. More of this helps out, but it is probably deserving of its own event in the end. :)
50. boring
51. I like it, please continue, psuh for more bakeoff's and trials.
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GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING |
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G1. A few questions about social media:
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Response Count |
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Have you tweeted about this NANOG meeting at Twitter.com? |
14.9% (20) |
85.1% (114) |
134 |
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Have you commented about this NANOG meeting at any other social media site?
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33.6% (45) |
66.4% (89) |
134 |
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Have you searched for comments about this NANOG meeting at Twitter.com?
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18.7% (25) |
81.3% (109) |
134 |
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Are you a member of the NANOG Facebook group?
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36.4% (48) |
63.6% (84) |
132
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25
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G2. Do you subscribe to the mailing list nanog@nanog.org?
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Yes |
81.2% (108) |
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No
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18.8% (25) |
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If you answered No, why not? |
1. I need a larger capacity email account due to the volume of email I imagine is generated. I minimally keep-up with the small volume of email I currently receive.
2. SNR.
3. Will signup shortly
4. Not enough time to keep up or sift
5. i read the archives.... too much email to look at already.
6. i read the archives
7. Will sign up shortly.
8. Too many trolls
9. Will soon.
10. Need to do so.
11. Too high volume. I read the archives, when I'm curious.
12. I didn't know about it
13. too much noise
14. Really?
15. I did several years ago and received too much email, though it was interesting. I'll give it another try.
16. n00bie
17. I look at the archives every now and then. Low level of content that I'm interested in.
18. too muych mail
19. I look at the archives
20. I do, but I filter it because it is way too noisy.
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G3. Please provide your feedback about the NANOG wireless network. If you had problems, please be specific about what they were and how you resolved them, or about suggestions for future improvements. |
1. I had no trouble in the Grand Ballroom, but could not connect at all in the Colonial room.
2. Brilliant! Excellent coverage, fast, worked all the time.
3. Nearly flawless.
4. Worked like a charm this meeting (I'm an "802.11a" user)
5. took me a while to find the documentation
6. Outstanding!
7. HAd packetloss issues on the wireless network.
8. worked like a champ
9. The wireless network was great, and seamless. Thank you.
10. Wireless was excellent
11. Well done by tkap and crew! Worked good!
12. Worked flawlessly
13. good
14. Worked fine for me.
15. Everything worked!
16. No problems
Yay PEAP worked right away
17. Good session,
18. wifi worked fine. it was also useful to have ipv6.
19. No issues. V6 worked. :-)
20. got the job done
21. was fine for me, b/g (wpa2) was a bit laggy in the peering bof probably due to lots of clients
22. Worked really well.
23. Windows WPA2 configuration worked - extremely unintuitive using Dell/Intel wireless config tool - only mention it for future - instructions might need to be clearer.
24. Not so good wireless connectivity
25. no issues
26. worked fine. Nice to see public v6 address space there.
27. Leaving this blank since I provided it previously.
28. Excellent.
29. I had weirdly slow connections sometimes on nanog-a. Not sure if it was the local network though.
30. Pretty good
31. Good wireless
32. very good and stable
33. very fast
34. The only problem was an hour or so window when the portion of the room I was in was without power. Fortunately, power was restored.
35. mostly have experienced hella packet loss on "nanog". at the moment it's good, but probably due to less users.
36. worked great
37. Generally ok ... couldn't get nanog-a early on Weds
38. The wireless connection is good
39. wireless great
40. It's been working great for me
41. Works great! hopefully there will be access hotel rooms
42. Seems to be filled with packet loss this time around.
43. There were issues staying associated for some people, but I run FreeBSD and it seems to work decently for me. I brought my MiFi and used that for a portion of the time.
44. worked without a hitch
45. super running wireless this time - rocking
46. No issues.
47. It is good.
48. network has been great
49. flawless
50. n/a
51. This worked very well with the instructions provided for the secure network
52. Excelent
53. Seemed to work great, but some people seem to horribly abuse this as there are clear times when everything grinds to a halt.
54. Bad signal strength in hotel rooms regardless of network.
55. It's been great.
56. worked very well.
57. all-in-all it was reliable, although a bit slow at times.
58. Could have been faster
59. None except for usual Windows 7 vs. WPA2 learning curves.
60. Great as always.
61. worked well.
62. worked great, dual-stack v6 worked w/o issues
63. A little slow @ times on the wide open network.
I know this is NANOG and this isn't going to get a lot of support, the details on how to setup the WPA2 network could of been more detailed.
64. Worked flawlessly for me.
65. these questions were answered in yesterday's survey.
66. works great!
67. worked great.
68. Very helpful, good coverage
69. I thought the wireless network was great this time around
70. In general works well. Classical problem is the shared broadcast domain, spouting out so much apple crap that fills the air and reduces air time capacity. Hard to watch the world cup :P
71. My 3rd floor room could not get a decent wireless connection to either the nanog or hotel wireless network (70% packet failure). That was not good!!!
72. nanog-a was again better than nanog. IPv6 is still treated like a step child. Please start monitoring it. I lost connectivity many times and had 60% packet loss on Monday and Tuesday to the gateway. We need to start treating 6 better than 4. Monitoring would be a great start.
73. no problems
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G4. What did you like/dislike about the meeting venue? |
1. Nice rooms, nice room for tables for off-meeting discussions/work. Cost was prohibitive, so I stayed elsewhere
2. San Fran is expensive for the rest of my family to enjoy themselves. (We're from central Virginia, where cost of living is cheaper.)
3. Nice location, easy to get places. Expensive though. Overall, I liked it. Oh, and it was impossible to figure out how to get up & down the stairs & elevators.
4. AC on first day
5. Nothing to dislike.
6. Nice hotel. Room setup was great. Location is very good.
7. the walkways were a little crazy....but its an old hotel.
8. I loved the meeting venue. I'm unable to consider problems.
9. Hotel was not as nice as some in the past and did not facilitate the group well on breaks
10. Good choice. Classy.
11. Loved it
12. Centrally located; plenty of places to eat
13. its ok
14. SFO was great, it drew a big crowd. Lots of restaurants and things to do within walking distance. Hotel was nice. Water was not put out at breaks, only soda.
15. Excellent venue, Food, space, meeting location
16. Its a short day. :(
17. COLD (both inside and outside)
18. Maze
19. Break room "Italian Room" a bit small.
20. the elevators were slow
21. No natural light in meeting/breakout areas. Coffee was stewed at times. Not much water supplied (one or two trays) in comparison to sodas (which there were loads of) at breaktimes. The break area was too small. The ballroom air conditioning was draughty and seemed to have cold spots.
22. Size - would have liked a bigger venue.
23. older hotel; you get character, but a maze of hallways and weird aircon.
24. The venue was pretty good, although San Jose is a bit better.
25. Leaving this blank since I provided it previously.
26. Great location and hotel.
27. I don't like the cArpet. Have to be angrey about something here it seems.
28. none
29. westin is comfortable. central location is great. but the westin treats its employees poorly. there have been protests lately. e.g. http://ebar.com/blogs/?p=832
30. superb location
31. Easy to get to 46, Very nice venue, great location within the city.
32. Too expensive ... No family friendly
33. hated the lifts in the hotel, the wifi in the hotel sucked also, and its not cheap!
34. I love the venue.
35. Union Square has pretty expensive parking, but otherwise is a great location.
36. nice architecture
37. The hotel rooms weren't as clean and classy as one would like for the price.
38. Like
39. elevators seemed congested
40. nothing
41. good location, big hotel, wasnt crammed in.
42. SF is nice, and hotel amenities and food were good. I was commuting in from Silicon Valley, which took some time and I wasn't able do any of the evening activities for personal reasons.
43. No
44. The meeting room layout is confusing in this place. The lifts are painfully rubbish.
45. Perfect site
46. venue was very nice. great location
47. Nothing negative to say about the location. Ample parking, accomodations, food & entertainment.
48. The meeting venue was great
49. Very good, very centralized area. Temperature controls were somewhat inconsistent, but acoustics very good and visuals good if one sits in front of the room.
50. Non-smoking hotel.
Great centralized location within the city, though.
51. Likes:
As a local who commuted, access to good parking and fairly reasonable parking rates.
Dislikes:
The large rooms besides the grand ballroom often had support columns that made it difficult to see and get around. Really think about how a room is laid out to provide easy movement of people.
The screens need to be higher in the Grand Ballroom. Many presenters try to cram in so much into their slides that sometimes people's heads block being able to read the last 2-3 feet of the screens.
52. It was fine. Nice selection of restaurants close to the hotel.
53. I liked the locale. Did not dislike anything.
54. some talks felt cramped on time. From the middle to back of the main room it was near impossible to read most of the slides, but maybe I'm just going blind.
55. Great venue, and SF is a terrific location. I would like to see us use SF again. The airport is convenient, and the metro to/from the airport helps keep down taxi costs.
56. Great location that attracted a very large number of customers.
57. What's not to like about SFO?
58. Seemed a bit small for the amount of people attending.
59. Love the venue, everything was great and having a social each night was great for allowing outside of conference room business to get done. Well done!
60. was fine for me.
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1. sessions flowed nicely
2. Drawings are great! Except next time I need to win something. :)
3. Food. Great food setup.
4. socials and food.
5. Everything so far.
6. Flow was ver good on meeting.
7. Netflix hosting was superb.
8. The network was excellent
9. Hotel wireless worked well also.
10. Better quality of topics.
11. everything.
Thank you Netflix for the sweater, it was a lifesaver
12. Easy to get from room to room.
13. agenda
14. PA system in ballroom was very good. Very easy to hear, clear, natural sounding. Big improvement over AUS. Get these guys every time :).
Good socials, good downtown venue. Close to shopping and facilities.
15. Presentation system.
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17. The sponsors really came through. Much appreciated.
18. the presentations
19. Most people were nice and good socials
20. wireless
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21. facility
22. socials where fantastic. content was not as good as previous nanog meetings. opening presentation whilst being funny was stating the obvious in my view. IPV6 customer stuff was a massively missed opportunity. ASICs presentation was good.
23. meeting with vendors and peers. having a face behind the email address
24. Power strips on tables instead of on floor
25. everything
26. Most things.
27. Everything except for some veggie food at most of break+dinner.
28. things flow quite well.
29. good attendance.
30. Overall, very smooth logistics for the presentations and facility.
31. All of it
32. Location: great to be in SF, with easy access to BART and MUNI.
33. smooth meeting
34. I loved having all the socials within walking distance, so when tired, I could leave when I wanted
35. food. location. excellent choice of topics.
36. Me. Make my boss stop calling me.
37. Everything.
38. Overall, done very well.
39. OMG the hidef IPv6 video stream was *AWESOME!!* If that can keep happening, the remote participants will love you into oblivion!
40. It was fine. The room was a bit cold, requiring the Netflix hoodie most of the time.
41. good attendance probably due to locale.
42. the sound
43. Merit was very helpful and did a great job of support
44. Thought the meeting room worked very well for the large number of attendees
45. Can't think of anything that hasn't worked well. Seems very well planned and executed. Job well done, Netflix.
46. Content has been great, number of powered rows, much better! BoF room sizes were perfect, schedule great.
47. BAU
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1. More speakers, maybe one more hour in the day. Parties are not important to me, sorry.
2. Get slides on website before presos
3. People need private (semi-private) meetings rooms. We had a lot of one-on-one meetings that would have liked to had somewhat privately. Others said the same thing.
4. n/a
5. more break out rooms.
6. Don Welch needs to step up to the plate and participate more.
7. N/a
8. More breakout sessions with tutorials.
9. Narrower meeitng room configuration.
10. more lightning talks
11. With 3 meetings/year one of them should be in NorCal.
12. size the room for the expected attendence. The main halls were fine, but the beer and gear and snack spaces were way too small.
13. More real discussions sessions
14. better beer selection (e.g. more variety). pick a location that treats its employees better.
15. facilitate more one-on-one meeting 'corners'
16. Somehow you need to check more about the quality of the presenters and not just their presentation. Not easy but a couple of people presenting made me want to poke a fork in my eye.
17. Security, I heard that there were a few laptops stolen, and some intrusion by some non-paying vendors.
18. Make more organized opportunities to meet others.
19. Better hotel. It doesn't have to be in the center of an expensive city.
20. Keep it up. All is well.
21. just someplace warm
22. Nothing
23. Proper online question facility.
24. Additional practical-tech talk. I really appreciate the academic research presentations, but it would be great to have more education/talks that can be applied in our jobs.
25. Juice available not just during breakfast
26. Find cheaper parking with the same type of great, centralized location. (Good luck!)
27. Any social events not providing substantial sustenance should be denoted as such.
Twice this week I found myself drinking heavily with no food in sight.
Brownies do not count. :)
28. Video resolution and presentations being online when the presentations start.
29. - The slides of each talk should be available online before the talk starts.
- The presenters should be provided with a laser pointer.
30. I'm fairly new to attending NANOG conferences & some of the topics are relatively new to me. Most of the presenters jump right into their presentations but it would be nice if there was an intro page to set the context of their presentation. 1 or 2 presenters did do this & it help me to understand what space they were trying to address, what they were trying to take away & what they wanted us to take away.
31. Perhaps more lightning talks.
32. keep up the attendance and interesting topics.
33. need to consistently put up presentations before the talk
34. 802.11n is cool.
35. Ensure wireless access is available throughout entire facility.
36. IPv6 connectivity, survey revamp, water at breaks (not everyone wants a sugar rush)
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1. More DNSSEC
2. Yes. Will send to PC
3. more content ...
4. n/a
5. More technical issues related to peering.
6. New Vendor Technologies would be nice
7. how about implementation presentations directed at mid-level network admins?
8. LTE.
9. Maybe some more slightly relevant security stuff, the theory was neat but generally not well researched on the practical side; seemed more like a thesis than a study.
10. I'd be interested in some presentations that go up the stack a little bit more - my world right now is the world of application switching, which some purists would say is not "real" networking but I think some people would be interested in. I might have a topic to contribute; I'll discuss with my management to figure out if it's baked enough to present.
11. More security and best practices talks for the general audience, not just in the SEC BOF.
12. More technical discussion.
13. more mpls
14. Wasn't able to attend Sunday, so I missed the MPLS related tutorials. It would be nice to see these in the regular sessions.
15. The ASIC preso was interesting - more hardware platforms would be great. More RF presentations would be great (microwave ethernet, and LTE/mobile). An introduction to GRX (GPRS roaming exchange peering), including the IPX work
16. Nothing
17. More technical how-to's as there used to be. The "no marketing" approach should be maintained.
18. More diversity. 3 presentations on BGP Security back-to-back-to-back, where a lot of the presentations were duplicated was a bit much.
19. More lightning talks and better key notes. I would rethink having all the geeks do keynotes. Why not ask visionaries like Gates, Jobs, Ballmer etc to come and talk?
20. I really, really want to hear someone from a content provider talk about IPv6 load balancing; it's the one area that is a huge gap in the roadmap for being able to deploy IPv6 for larger companies.
21. I think it was a good balance of technical vs. breadth.
22. mpls te
23. anycast and routing
24. DDoS and attack mitigation would be interesting
25. How to transition an ISP to v6
26. Keynotes like CTO FedEx / large commercial entities (non-typical NANOGers). Vijay was great, but still we can do better than this.
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1. n/a
2. Some vendors were really good and had lots of detail. Others had issues with assumptions. Very tough crowd and made sure have ducks in a row.
3. Atleast one west coast per year, please.
4. I have no problem to volunteer for next NANOG meeting
5. better wireless thruput / less packetloss
6. Cities with easy ingress and egress,hotels with lots of restaurants, bars and clubs close by
7. Maybe have local telco's or colo facilities offer tours?
8. n/a
9. Nothing
10. Warm = good. Central to geeks = good. Dearborn, MI = bad.
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G9. Suggestions and volunteers for the NANOG Marketing Working Group and future NANOG sponsors: (Whom should we recruit for monetary support in exchange for exhibit area, corporate visibility, and community recognition?) |
1. n/a
2. I am willing to volunteer for the Marketing working group, and can help with logistics a bit in Atlanta since I am based there (Brandon Ross, bross@subspacecom.com). Also my employer, Torrey Point may be willing to sponsor a break/party/whatever for Atlanta.
3. Keep the actual content technical, not vendor-centric. so far you have done a good job with this. Don't change it.
4. dunno
5. apple
6. Specifically, let me suggest that social events would be nicely served by selecting venues that aren't so loud - the Monday night event gave me a sore throat! Not that we shouldn't do stuff like bands, clubs, etc but if so, find someplace that has alternate areas where people can talk in normal tones of voices.
7. sponsorship was well done
8. Nothing
9. Google--they have lots of money. And Apple. :D
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G10. Why do you attend NANOG? |
1. to meet with those who are operators, to hear current operational practices, problems, and solutions
2. Learn about the latest operational problems and how smart and experienced people are trying to solve them.
3. people networking, plus talks
4. Because it's NANOG!
5. IPv6
6. information on operator issues.
7. Looking for job opportunities and to network with other people in the IP Networking field.
8. Business and peer relationships.
9. networking
- presentations.
- peering discussions.
10. As I've gained experience, all the topics and presentations started to resonate more than ever. I've been most stimulated by this NANOG, over all the previous times I came. Thank you.
11. Peering and developing new relationships and technical knowledge
12. For the atmosphere and attitude.
13. To check out carrier readiness with v6, learn more about carrier practices.
14. discuss issues with other attendees.
15. Excellent technical content and social networking.
16. Excellent education topics. Industry networking
17. First time and wanted to see who was here.
18. Technical information.
19. networking
20. friends and education
21. Social aspects, keep up to day.e
22. Networking with others in the industry.
23. topics of interest
24. To learn from other people and understand what is going on for the internet revolution
25. NANOG is one of the places where I keep in touch with colleagues, discuss current issues, etc. Basically, typical "hallway track" stuff.
26. To meet industry peers and colleagues, network, and share clue.
27. Information
28. to mantain relatioship, and to know other people with new bussiness oportunities
29. Like minds smashing together to shoot ideas
30. To network with my peers.
31. Social network, talks and spoke.
32. The hallway conversations and general session, for the most part.
33. Networking
34. As a speaker I attend to talk about the opportunity to do business in Haiti in the telecom sector particularly in the post earthquake period.
35. Understand transition.
Catch up with friends.
Meet customers and clients
find jobs
36. Presenting at the research forum
meeting with operators to get feedback
37. New people and tech.
38. Peering contact opportunities. Staying up to date with other operators. Social interaction with industry peers.
39. To try to understand what issues are of most concern to the operators.
40. to learn stuff and geek out
41. to meet all my peers
42. The people in the hall
43. To network and support the networking community.
44. presentations, meetings
45. Gaining more information on what's happening with the community in general
46. To meet with people.
47. Because I'm a giant nerd, really.
48. To stay connected to the networking business - now that I'm in the bay area that may be easier than it was in Atlanta. Great opportunity to rub shoulders, and some excellent presentations on the Neat Stuff that others are doing.
49. stay up to date with the ISP community
50. Networking and see what others are up to.
51. To learn and to network with people.
52. Keep updated on latest development in the area
53. First time.
54. to learn more about where things are going. best pratices
55. people, sessions.
56. Wanted to get some industry knowledge and meet with techies that use networking equipment, and general exposure to current Internet routing issues.
57. To know new things
58. Meet up with folks and learn some cool new stuff.
59. Network/meet people
60. Was asked to speak about network automation tools.
61. to network with other networkers and present some tools that might be helpful for other network operators
62. technical presentations. networking.
63. Education on technology I don't come in contact with; social networking
64. Social interactions and relationship development
65. Primarily for beer and gear
66. 1) Netgeek lessons, 2) Socializing (meeting all the people I've been talking to via IM/e-mail/phone for years)
67. Community networking.
68. career development, acquire technical clue, see friends and colleagues and contribute to international network collaboration.
69. Meet with peers and learn more/about technologies
70. Conduct business.
71. My company has moved me into their enterprise products which has really impacted my ability to stay current on SP network directions/complexities which is/was my area of expertise. NANOG provides some insights into what's going on.
72. For the conversations in the hall.
For a 100K ft view of the state of "internet operations."
73. Learn new ideas I can incorporate into other networks, find new contacts in the industry, and stay current with the movers and shakers in the industry.
74. I'm a network engineer. I do BGP.
75. Like to meet and talk to other network operators and see what are major technologies out there and challenges
76. networking, get a pulse of the industry
77. To learn and exchange ideas or information and meet with other professionals in the industry.
78. To learn what is going on in the industry
to get exposed to what other sites are doing
79. to network with people and to learn
80. To look for opportunities and networking.
81. V6 info
82. Revenue generation, putting faces to names, learning new things (hopefully not making a mistake someone else did), new security techniques, and to stay current.
83. To maintain social relationships, talk directly to other engineers about specific technical topics.
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1. All NANOG meetings should be join NANOG/ARIN meetings and there should only be two a year.
2. n/a
3. Yes. We need better security and checking of badges.
4. surveys should be cumulative...only present questions I haven't already answered
5. The reference to 'twitter.com' in the social media question is a little imprecise; most folks use various twitter clients, not the website itself. Next time naybe just "using twitter' or something similar.
6. The 'G' questions might be saved for the last day, it's somewhat repetitive to have to fill them out each day, when things may not have changed.
Perhaps they should be a survey of their own, separate from the daily surveys, that can be filled out at any time.
7. Too much hostility - session moderators should stem the sit down and stfu comments. Encourage a professional and couteous environment please.
8. nope. thanks.
9. Hopefully hotel accomodation can be arranged for attendees to be extended for at least 2 hours after the event to give way for preparation before travel
10. no
11. nothing
12. Quack quack.
13. Thanks again for another great meeting.
14. The sweatshirts were beautiful & a great idea, but it would have been nice to have women's sizes or at least Men smalls.
15. I would like to get a better view into how the sausage is made in regards to programming the event. What things were turned down, perhaps allow members to vote up topic ideas for future NANOGs. I have no problem with the PC having final say for NANOG X, but if the PC consistently sees rejected topics A,B and C voted up, maybe that can be feedback for things that the community is interested in seeing presented.
16. Since we are doing daily survey, some of the questions don't need to be repeated (e.g., first and last pages) if they been answered in the previous day(s).
17. No
18. I think this NANOG was very well done and like the large number and variety of people that show up for the Bay Area events. Like the Super Bowl should only rotate between a few cities, it would be nice to have the Bay Area more frequently represented.
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