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Re: When IPv6 ... if ever?

  • From: Nathan Lane
  • Date: Sun Sep 03 00:21:13 2000

Bill Fumerola wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 10:40:32AM -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> > Then ask yourself, as an ISP, what benefit you get from IPv6.
> >
> > My answers: not a chance, none, and zero, respectively.
> At some point, when ARIN just stops issueing IPv4 address space,
> I would say it would be in a {I,N}SPs best intrest to switch.
> As an ASP, if my uplinks offered ipv6 address space/routing,
> I'd get it and start working with it _now_ rather then later.
> --

Envision yourselves in a position where the company you work for has
allocated all 1918 addresses and a new application comes along.  Let's
say it's wireless devices that perform a function to streamline 20 jobs
and must communicate with the supplier's network.  This supplier also
supplies all of your competitors, so global end-to-end connectivity is
required.  Let's say there are 4000 devices per remote site with 4000
sites.  Am I going to get that ipv4 space from ARIN?  NOPE!  They want
extremely sensitive information, inlcuding purchase orders, from me to
justify it.  However, how can the project proceed if the addresses are
unavailable?  We cannot commit to the order until we know if it is

Enter v6 with a slightly better policy (not the one I had hoped for,
which was free or low cost v6 space to those who could justify it using
the same justifications [save the purchase orders] as for v4 space) and
we may just consider it.

IPv6 is not saleable to anyone until the allocation policies come into
line with reality.  The reality is: there is NULL commercial demand
right now so there can be no justifiable charge for the space.  This
environment does not in any way foster the startups that can prove a new
application or business model.

Note that I am specifically not stating that we must institute a land
grab for v6 space.  It must be justified, but the current justification
and pricing models keep business out while we all wait for the
inevitable crisis.

-Nathan Lane