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Re: Defeating DoS Attacks Through Accountability

  • From: Mauro Lollo
  • Date: Sun Nov 12 18:25:36 2000

If possible, ARIN, or another "authority" should retain more information about the profile of address space, including delegations. As you noted, announcing first and fixing later is like a hit and run, then returning a while later to scrape up the fellow off the road.

We just repatriated a portable /24 from a rouge who was using it, supposedly telling his upstream that we had "given them permission"......NOT.

I suppose the question is, could a governing body (outside of government), ever keep reasonable control over things without the complete obedience of providers?


From: Mark Prior <[email protected]>
To: Sean Donelan <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Defeating DoS Attacks Through Accountability
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 16:53:27 +1030

But the current practice of announcing first, and only after you kill some
innocent bystander's network, then fixing it; needs to stop.

Every IP address should be traceable to an original recorded delegation.
If the "paperwork" isn't complete or is inaccurate, we should work on fixing
it. Sticking our heads in the sand, and announcing the network until
someone complains is not good.

How would you propose to handle the case where an organisation has
their own IP space which isn't currently advertised and then you
receive a request from a third party to route it to them?


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