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RE: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Wa s: net.terrorism)

  • From: Anne Marcel
  • Date: Sat Jan 13 19:05:06 2001

Lets keep this discussion away from ORBS and/or any other specific 

Just because those servers are not (yet?) listed in any of the known
broken server databases does not mean they won't be found by script
kiddie's or other interested parties. Security by obscurity does not work,
and does not scale.

- marcel
#include <disclaimer.std>
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:

> The consent comes from signing the service agreement and is built into the
> SLA. Yes, such anti-routing would need to be mentioned ... that is all. I am
> quite comfortable with AboveNet transit policies, as currently implemented.
> I have a number of clients, in AboveNet co-lo, that would be greatly
> inconvenienced were those policies (WRT ORBS) to change significantly. In
> fact, they are not yet secure enough to withstand the cracker attack wave
> that usually follows an ORBS listing. I know others, that are NOT clients,
> in the same shape. But, they are getting there. However, it takes time.