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  • From: Shon Elliott
  • Date: Thu Jun 20 12:33:51 2002


We also ran into a problem with the guys from

I think that they are a bunch of cklueless people trying to do anti-spam
by personal vendettas. one of the guys actually told me that MAPS was a
dead issue ever since they 'allowed' a company to spam because they
received a sum of money for it. I doubt Paul would enjoy hearing about
this, but I also think he isn't suprised. SPEWS is not a good service,
yet you get all these system admins with a chip on their shoulder to
back it up and support it.

My two cents.

Shon Elliott
Systems/Network Administrator;

Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> I've had a little run-in with SPEWS, and the crowd on
> I'm curious; do folks take these guys serious?
> I'll admit, we had an issue with a customer who spammed, and it took us a
> little while to zap him. Nevertheless, he was zapped. He had a /27, and
> SPEWs listed the entire /24 surrounding it. When I asked about this, they
> said, in not-so-many-words, that by doing this, punishing innocent
> bystanders, that as long as the ISP noticed and fixed the issue, this was
> essentially OK to do.
> Of course, I disagreed, and was called all sorts of names that I'd not
> used since I was 14.
> So, to the point; what is the consensus on SPEWs? I've never really
> noticed them until this point.
> -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, [email protected], latency, Al Reuben --
> --    Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36,   --

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