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RE: Curing the BIND pain

  • From: Michael.Dillon
  • Date: Tue Apr 01 11:50:50 2003

> and then send it to the IETF's DNS WG's as a request. 

>Tell them what you need to accomplish and not how to do it,
>and they will build a protocol to satisfy this request


"They" will build a protocol for us!?!?!?

And just who do you think the IETF are, hmmm?

Reminds me of the Pogo cartoonist Walt Kelly who said, "We have met the 
enemy and he is us!". May I suggest that all this advice about what "we" 
should be doing is rather out of place on the NANOG list. This list is to 
discuss Internet operational stuff that impacts North American Network 
Operators. Operational stuff is usually technical and it usually is here 
and now rather than some indeterminate point in the future. This isn't the 
rules of NANOG, it's just the way things are around here. Anything that 
falls too far outside of this core focus just doesn't get the list fired 
up enough to do anything beyond talk and complaining.

If you want to change the world, create new protocols or build an working 
group on some topic or other, you really shouldn't try to do it on NANOG 
because it just ain't gonna work. You may think that NANOG is in a rut and 
that's quite true but it is a comfortable rut and one that provides enough 
benefit to the NANOG participants to keep it going more or less the same 
way as it has for years.

There definitely is room in the world for all of the things that have been 
discussed recently, it's just that NANOG isn't a particularly fruitful 
place to discuss them because you won't find enough recruits here to form 
a critical mass. If you truly are serious about some of these things then 
you will take the discussion off the NANOG list and make a serious effort 
to create a working group with a real action plan. Anything else is just 
posturing and we've seen it all before. It does not impress us.


--Michael Dillon

P.S. No, I'm not the NANOG police; I'm just stating my opinion.