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Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

  • From: Owen DeLong
  • Date: Fri Nov 19 12:46:33 2004

Any org viewing ASNs as a scarce resource is wasting money keeping ASNs.
Any org that financially broken will probably not continue to pay it's
bills in the long run.

I believe these are the exception and not the rule. Like I said, the
long-term answer to this is 32bit ASNs. I don't think hoarding will account
for a significant portion of the ASN space in the long run.


--On Friday, November 19, 2004 6:48 AM -0600 "J.A. Terranson" <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:28:55 +0100, Jeroen Massar <[email protected]>
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

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> On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal.  While this is a
> > small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
> > 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at least,
> > reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longer
> > paying the maintenance for them.
Yes, but what about the (dozens, hundreds?) of entities that are
hoarding (and renewing) ASNs?  These unused resources are gone forever
- since they are seen as a scarce resource, they are kept artificially
alive (even though the orgs know full well there is neither a use nor
a justification for them).


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