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RE: Wifi SIP WPA/PSK Support

  • From: Casey Halverson
  • Date: Thu Jan 26 18:13:26 2006

I have actually been following this as well, and I have tested several
of these handsets.  Others have been impossible to source.  Typically
startups will attempt to bring a wifi voip handset to the market,
realize there is no demand, and fold.

In the particular discussion of WPA:

Note that the two Senaos listed claim WPA support, but this is not
available in the current firmware.  There also hasn't been any updates
to it in a year or so -- don't expect it anytime soon.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Frank Bulk
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Wifi SIP WPA/PSK Support
> I've been tracking the Wi-Fi SIP phone space for some time, 
> and have documented all the phones that I could find here:
> It's about a 7 MB file because I've included pictures of 
> these devices where I could find them.
> Because we just installed a SIP proxy server on our switch I 
> took the opportunity to purchase and try out 4 Wi-Fi SIP phones: 
> - Hitachi IPC-5000
> - UTStarcom F1000
> - Pulver WiSIP/ZyXEL P-2000W v1
> - ZyXEL P-2000 v2
> The last two offer identical user interface and functionality 
> but a different shell.  
> The Hitachi doesn't offer WPA support, but it does do 802.1X 
> (specifically EAP-MD5, EAP-TLS, PEAP, and EAP-TTLS) with WEP. 
>  That probably means it can hand out WEP keys, and perhaps 
> perform dynamic WEP.  The only phone to support WPA from that 
> short list is the F1000 with 3.60 or higher firmware, and 
> that's only WPA-PSK.
> If you look in the Word document you'll see there are other 
> phones that offer WPA support, but there not are readily 
> available in the North American market.
> Kind regards,
> Frank
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Leber
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Wifi SIP WPA/PSK Support
> I'm working on finding a Wifi SIP phone that supports WPA/PSK 
> that we can recommended to VOIP clients.  As everybody knows, 
> currently most Wifi SIP phones support WEP which is 
> demonstrably insecure.  For banking and financial customers, 
> or companies that are given passwords or credit cards over 
> the phone, this is a serious security issue.
> We recently bought a Hitachi-Cable Wireless IPC-5000 WiFi SIP 
> Phone from after finding some web pages that 
> said that phone supported WPA (the pages were in German), yet 
> once we got the phone all it supported was WEP even after 
> updating the firmware to the latest version using the website 
> mentioned in the documentation that came with the phone.
> I've had a few people say that there was some sort of 
> conspiracy to keep US citizens from using secure phones, 
> however I found that laughable because the potential risk of 
> terrorist or criminal interception from having all Wifi 
> telephone conversations involving credit cards (let alone 
> social security numbers, bank account numbers, passwords, 
> what have you) in the clear would create an attack vector so 
> large as to exceed all other possible attack vectors... I 
> mean why work on cracking anything when you can just listen 
> to everybody in the clear (well virtually in the clear with WEP).
> So, back in reality, could anybody in the US that bought 
> their Wifi SIP phone in the US share a success story at 
> getting Wifi SIP setup with WPA/PSK?  What model of phone did 
> you buy?  Where did you get it?  Did you have to upgrade it 
> to any special version of firmware or what?
> Mike.
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